Groggthorr the Jaggernaut

Avatar-3DT · 03-07-2003, 09:49 PM

This is a troll (as I see trolls). I dedicate this thread to Knut, who's making the best low-poly troll ever, to MonteCristo, the "father" of the sexiest elfe I lay eyes over, ca't wait to see it fenished, to my buddy rage who will deliver us, hopfully soon, the coolest Tolkien scene and to all my romanian compatriots on the forum. Some of them realy amazed me.
Well, I expect some c&c.

wolfy · 04-07-2003, 08:49 AM

good start there dude. It seems trolls are very in at the moment, which can only be a good thing. I would like to see a little more of his body, are you thinking fat podgy looking or very muscular??? It could be interesting both ways. And will he have a big old tree club????

Avatar-3DT · 04-07-2003, 07:54 PM

Thanks wolfy! In fact you're right, I'm going with the fat like look. Its a jaggernaut after all. Just plain big and dumb and with some seriouse attitude problems. But for a weapon I was thinking at a big piece of wood with a boulder attached on the end of it with some leather strings. I'm worried about the furs 'tho. Scatter won't do the work. I may have to export him in Max 3 to be able to use the hair plugin.

sarN · 04-07-2003, 08:12 PM

haha, he looks very juggernaut-ish, if that helps ya

keep goin!

LoGiY · 04-07-2003, 08:56 PM

looks nice

Thomas Mahler · 04-07-2003, 10:55 PM

Looks great! I especially love this characteristic nose... ;-)

Avatar-3DT · 05-07-2003, 01:01 AM

Well, from what I know, trolls have a very accute sense of smell. That and the infravision sight help them track prey into the forest at night, for they are night creatures. Legends sais that the sun turns them into stone or make them blow away.

Daniel · 05-07-2003, 01:20 AM

really cool, it's obvious your talent in drawing seeps into your 3D skills.

Avatar-3DT · 05-07-2003, 10:37 PM

Daniel, nice to see you here! And cool avatar by the way; I love Raziel and I love his story. I've been with the Legacy since the begining (Blood OmenI & II, Soul Reaver I & II); I bearly expect for SoulReaver III. I hope it's coming soon.

About my troll.... Well, I'll work tonight on his ears and prehaps a little on his arms. I'll come with a post as soon as possible.

Daniel · 06-07-2003, 02:39 AM

yeal I totally agree, I'd totally addicted to that series. Blood Omen 2 was so cool, playing as an actual vampire (I'd love to model one of those someday). You should check http://www.legacyofkain.com they have a preview for the new upcoming installment. So anyhow, post more updates

Avatar-3DT · 06-07-2003, 09:53 PM

Thanks for the link Daniel. Yeah, Kain and the entire story around him its just great! The way the things twist and bend within the necromancers and Kain's interests and manipulation.
And here is the update.

MonteCristo · 06-07-2003, 10:03 PM

Wow! you have been busy haven't you? Looking really good so far I can see your anatomy knowledge is really helping this one. Half the battle is subtlety. I think it's a battle you are winning.

One thing, To me the ears are positioned to far down and to far forward. Of course, this being a troll, there are no rules, they can be whereever you like. But as a viewer it catches my eye. It's up to you to decided whether you agree.

Thanks for the head's up at the start of the thread btw.

Avatar-3DT · 06-07-2003, 10:40 PM

Well, the positioning of the ears is intentional. The defect you spoted (and its a defect indeed but I couldn't corect it) will be hidden by the sideburns the troll will have. The ears are positioned low to keep the illusion of a flat, small head. I hope to solve my hair problem (in fact his hair problem

) so I'll have some strands hanging around those big, low ears. If not, I'm thinking about a very short hair covering his head, maybe some baldness starting to eat around the forhead.
Please, if you are seing things that seems wrong, show them to me.

Daniel · 06-07-2003, 11:50 PM

wow great progress, I can already feel the atmosphere of the character coming to life. I'm impressed.

Avatar-3DT · 07-07-2003, 08:08 PM

And a small update. Some legs, front, side back view. I need some advice for rigging and animation.
I have a problem with character studio. When I try to animate the pevis bone its not mooving. Its locked or something?

03-07-2003, 09:49 PM	#1
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Groggthorr the Jaggernaut This is a troll (as I see trolls). I dedicate this thread to Knut, who's making the best low-poly troll ever, to MonteCristo, the "father" of the sexiest elfe I lay eyes over, ca't wait to see it fenished, to my buddy rage who will deliver us, hopfully soon, the coolest Tolkien scene and to all my romanian compatriots on the forum. Some of them realy amazed me. Well, I expect some c&c. Attached Images Last edited by Avatar-3DT; 17-07-2003 at 09:44 PM..

04-07-2003, 08:49 AM	#2
wolfy Dumb ass ruler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: uk kent Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	good start there dude. It seems trolls are very in at the moment, which can only be a good thing. I would like to see a little more of his body, are you thinking fat podgy looking or very muscular??? It could be interesting both ways. And will he have a big old tree club???? __________________ your dumb ass friend wolfy

04-07-2003, 07:54 PM	#3
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Thanks wolfy! In fact you're right, I'm going with the fat like look. Its a jaggernaut after all. Just plain big and dumb and with some seriouse attitude problems. But for a weapon I was thinking at a big piece of wood with a boulder attached on the end of it with some leather strings. I'm worried about the furs 'tho. Scatter won't do the work. I may have to export him in Max 3 to be able to use the hair plugin. Attached Images

05-07-2003, 01:20 AM	#8
Daniel Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	really cool, it's obvious your talent in drawing seeps into your 3D skills. __________________ "There are no binding oaths between men and lions- wolves and lambs can enjoy no meeting of the minds- they are all bent on hating each other to the death." -Achilles "It is better by noble boldness to run the risk of being subject to half the evils we anticipate than to remain in cowardly listlessness for fear of what might happen." -Herodotus

06-07-2003, 02:39 AM	#10
Daniel Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeal I totally agree, I'd totally addicted to that series. Blood Omen 2 was so cool, playing as an actual vampire (I'd love to model one of those someday). You should check http://www.legacyofkain.com they have a preview for the new upcoming installment. So anyhow, post more updates __________________ "There are no binding oaths between men and lions- wolves and lambs can enjoy no meeting of the minds- they are all bent on hating each other to the death." -Achilles "It is better by noble boldness to run the risk of being subject to half the evils we anticipate than to remain in cowardly listlessness for fear of what might happen." -Herodotus

04-07-2003, 08:12 PM	#4
sarN Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 2,238 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	haha, he looks very juggernaut-ish, if that helps ya keep goin!

04-07-2003, 08:56 PM	#5
LoGiY Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	looks nice

04-07-2003, 10:55 PM	#6
Thomas Mahler The Austrian Stallion Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 147 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Looks great! I especially love this characteristic nose... ;-)

05-07-2003, 01:01 AM	#7
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Well, from what I know, trolls have a very accute sense of smell. That and the infravision sight help them track prey into the forest at night, for they are night creatures. Legends sais that the sun turns them into stone or make them blow away.

05-07-2003, 10:37 PM	#9
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Daniel, nice to see you here! And cool avatar by the way; I love Raziel and I love his story. I've been with the Legacy since the begining (Blood OmenI & II, Soul Reaver I & II); I bearly expect for SoulReaver III. I hope it's coming soon. About my troll.... Well, I'll work tonight on his ears and prehaps a little on his arms. I'll come with a post as soon as possible.

06-07-2003, 09:53 PM	#11
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Thanks for the link Daniel. Yeah, Kain and the entire story around him its just great! The way the things twist and bend within the necromancers and Kain's interests and manipulation. And here is the update. Attached Images

06-07-2003, 10:03 PM	#12
MonteCristo Can't stay away. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK Posts: 2,664 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 14	Wow! you have been busy haven't you? Looking really good so far I can see your anatomy knowledge is really helping this one. Half the battle is subtlety. I think it's a battle you are winning. One thing, To me the ears are positioned to far down and to far forward. Of course, this being a troll, there are no rules, they can be whereever you like. But as a viewer it catches my eye. It's up to you to decided whether you agree. Thanks for the head's up at the start of the thread btw. __________________ www.jackoakman.com

06-07-2003, 10:40 PM	#13
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Well, the positioning of the ears is intentional. The defect you spoted (and its a defect indeed but I couldn't corect it) will be hidden by the sideburns the troll will have. The ears are positioned low to keep the illusion of a flat, small head. I hope to solve my hair problem (in fact his hair problem) so I'll have some strands hanging around those big, low ears. If not, I'm thinking about a very short hair covering his head, maybe some baldness starting to eat around the forhead. Please, if you are seing things that seems wrong, show them to me.

06-07-2003, 11:50 PM	#14
Daniel Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	wow great progress, I can already feel the atmosphere of the character coming to life. I'm impressed. __________________ "There are no binding oaths between men and lions- wolves and lambs can enjoy no meeting of the minds- they are all bent on hating each other to the death." -Achilles "It is better by noble boldness to run the risk of being subject to half the evils we anticipate than to remain in cowardly listlessness for fear of what might happen." -Herodotus

07-07-2003, 08:08 PM	#15
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	And a small update. Some legs, front, side back view. I need some advice for rigging and animation. I have a problem with character studio. When I try to animate the pevis bone its not mooving. Its locked or something? Attached Images

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