Avatar - 2D - CLP - The Last Prince

CLP · 06-02-2009, 04:45 PM

Hello people, this is my first post and I'm in unfamiliar territory here as I haven't really entered these competitions before. This and dominance war will keep me away from coursework for a while ;p

My concept for an avatar is a prince.

He is the last remaining member of the House of Thanatos. A century ago, the empire attempted to destroy the House hoping to claim their kingdom but they had failed.

Now the last in the bloodline was waged a vengeful war against the empire.

EDIT: put a close up of his face here, i really didnt like havin that line drawin as the thread image lol

CLP · 06-02-2009, 08:03 PM

didnt like last outline, thought this new one looks more dynamic

mr_carl · 06-02-2009, 08:07 PM

I feel that the first one have more action in it but the second one has more focus on the characters so to me it´s more what you want to tell in the image.

CLP · 06-02-2009, 08:10 PM

well i think the second one would work better for expressing the characters mood and the general atmosphere of the scene. got creative block at the moment too so having hard time comin up with good ideas lol.

il work on a speedpaint of the second one to see what it feels like then il decide which to take forward i think

POSEIdOON · 06-02-2009, 08:45 PM

Liked your two sketches, but the last i think is better to give
more focus to your avatar.

CLP · 07-02-2009, 10:58 AM

I did a quick paint of it last night but i think the colours need some work. jus blocked in the background characters for now.

POSEIdOON · 07-02-2009, 01:29 PM

You used some warm colors, i think it works...i imediately imagined the background with some clouds of dust and some fading shapes...

or are you planning of using a detailed background?

can't wait to see more

CLP · 07-02-2009, 01:35 PM

yeh i think that i started this one intending on more atmospheric scene than detail so itll probably be more shape and dust lol. i dont think detailed backdrop will work with it really .

mr_carl · 07-02-2009, 02:05 PM

really nice earthy colours, a bit of the colour scheme I had in mind for my character so maby I will have to change them a bit.

Looking really good.

CLP · 08-02-2009, 11:51 PM

was a bit busy today so didnt get much done but i put an explosion in... lol. any thoughts on whether it should be there or not?

CLP

FireSunFox · 10-02-2009, 12:05 AM

I think it adds a needed interest to the background and a better sense of depth but it could do with even more, a aircarft? I don't know the army just looks too small in number?? Anyway, it's looking great so far, good luck!!^^

CLP · 11-02-2009, 06:34 PM

Took on the advice bout vehicles though i dunno, looks a bit messy now? any advice about the composition of the background?

mr_carl · 12-02-2009, 10:55 PM

There is alot going on in the background but it´s not to much yet I think.
I like the explosion and the plane looks nice to doesn't bother me much at all, maby there should be some more soldier but not a lot of them, I can see the silhouettes of some so maby one or 2 should get some more detale.

Anyway looking really sweet.

washka · 15-02-2009, 11:16 PM

Just a crazy idea:
If you cut horizontally the image by the middle (approximatly), you got the top piece and the bottom piece, forget the top piece. Now if you cut the bottom piece vertically into 4 equal pieces.
Your prince's foots are (approximatly) in the two center pieces, forget those two center pieces.
Focus on the left side piece and on the right side piece, even if your painting is not symetrical (and it's better like that) maybe you should "erase" those side zones of the image. Using the diagonal of those zones, I would use a graphical sort of "V" trick (smoke, explosion, architecture..., something dark or neutral) aligned with the prince to hide the details and the contrast on those side zones. Why?
The upper part and the prince (the previous forgotten pieces) are what you want to show (I think). If you "erase" the zones I pointed, you'll give more importance to your subject, and the "V" trick will be in opposition with the cape and open the view to the interesting upper part.
But that's just an idea, i'm not sure if you'll understand it, and if it will work, i recommend you test if you like the idea.
My explications are sometimes so complicated when explaining something really simple, I'm sorry about that.

About your work, you've got an amazing painting style, I can feel some great painting experience back there, I'll be back.

CLP · 15-02-2009, 11:28 PM

that sounds somewhat nuts washka! lol but I'm up for trying it. uni work is pressing hard so maybe a few days until i post again unless i neglect the work some more lol
cheers for the comments guys.

06-02-2009, 04:45 PM	#1
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Avatar - 2D - CLP - The Last Prince Hello people, this is my first post and I'm in unfamiliar territory here as I haven't really entered these competitions before. This and dominance war will keep me away from coursework for a while ;p My concept for an avatar is a prince. He is the last remaining member of the House of Thanatos. A century ago, the empire attempted to destroy the House hoping to claim their kingdom but they had failed. Now the last in the bloodline was waged a vengeful war against the empire. EDIT: put a close up of his face here, i really didnt like havin that line drawin as the thread image lol Attached Images Last edited by CLP; 19-02-2009 at 11:20 PM..

06-02-2009, 08:03 PM	#2
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	didnt like last outline, thought this new one looks more dynamic Attached Images

06-02-2009, 08:07 PM	#3
mr_carl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 258 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I feel that the first one have more action in it but the second one has more focus on the characters so to me it´s more what you want to tell in the image. __________________ DWIV AVATAR Blogg - kwit.tv

07-02-2009, 10:58 AM	#6
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	I did a quick paint of it last night but i think the colours need some work. jus blocked in the background characters for now. Attached Images

07-02-2009, 02:05 PM	#9
mr_carl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 258 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	really nice earthy colours, a bit of the colour scheme I had in mind for my character so maby I will have to change them a bit. Looking really good. __________________ DWIV AVATAR Blogg - kwit.tv

06-02-2009, 08:10 PM	#4
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	well i think the second one would work better for expressing the characters mood and the general atmosphere of the scene. got creative block at the moment too so having hard time comin up with good ideas lol. il work on a speedpaint of the second one to see what it feels like then il decide which to take forward i think

06-02-2009, 08:45 PM	#5
POSEIdOON Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Liked your two sketches, but the last i think is better to give more focus to your avatar.

07-02-2009, 01:29 PM	#7
POSEIdOON Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You used some warm colors, i think it works...i imediately imagined the background with some clouds of dust and some fading shapes... or are you planning of using a detailed background? can't wait to see more

07-02-2009, 01:35 PM	#8
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	yeh i think that i started this one intending on more atmospheric scene than detail so itll probably be more shape and dust lol. i dont think detailed backdrop will work with it really .

08-02-2009, 11:51 PM	#10
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	was a bit busy today so didnt get much done but i put an explosion in... lol. any thoughts on whether it should be there or not? CLP Attached Images

10-02-2009, 12:05 AM	#11
FireSunFox Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think it adds a needed interest to the background and a better sense of depth but it could do with even more, a aircarft? I don't know the army just looks too small in number?? Anyway, it's looking great so far, good luck!!^^

11-02-2009, 06:34 PM	#12
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	Took on the advice bout vehicles though i dunno, looks a bit messy now? any advice about the composition of the background? Attached Images

12-02-2009, 10:55 PM	#13
mr_carl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 258 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	There is alot going on in the background but it´s not to much yet I think. I like the explosion and the plane looks nice to doesn't bother me much at all, maby there should be some more soldier but not a lot of them, I can see the silhouettes of some so maby one or 2 should get some more detale. Anyway looking really sweet. __________________ DWIV AVATAR Blogg - kwit.tv

15-02-2009, 11:16 PM	#14
washka (Oo) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,723 Thanks: 201 Thanked 126 Times in 113 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	Just a crazy idea: If you cut horizontally the image by the middle (approximatly), you got the top piece and the bottom piece, forget the top piece. Now if you cut the bottom piece vertically into 4 equal pieces. Your prince's foots are (approximatly) in the two center pieces, forget those two center pieces. Focus on the left side piece and on the right side piece, even if your painting is not symetrical (and it's better like that) maybe you should "erase" those side zones of the image. Using the diagonal of those zones, I would use a graphical sort of "V" trick (smoke, explosion, architecture..., something dark or neutral) aligned with the prince to hide the details and the contrast on those side zones. Why? The upper part and the prince (the previous forgotten pieces) are what you want to show (I think). If you "erase" the zones I pointed, you'll give more importance to your subject, and the "V" trick will be in opposition with the cape and open the view to the interesting upper part. But that's just an idea, i'm not sure if you'll understand it, and if it will work, i recommend you test if you like the idea. My explications are sometimes so complicated when explaining something really simple, I'm sorry about that. About your work, you've got an amazing painting style, I can feel some great painting experience back there, I'll be back. __________________ Nexus (2D thread) My Blog Member initiate of the very secret splotcher congregation... If you really like what you do, you can make marvellous things, if you don't: use your eraser and take a breath!

15-02-2009, 11:28 PM	#15
CLP Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	that sounds somewhat nuts washka! lol but I'm up for trying it. uni work is pressing hard so maybe a few days until i post again unless i neglect the work some more lol cheers for the comments guys.

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