Community rendering

albertolindesign · 06-01-2012, 06:30 PM

Hi everyone! So, a question to the hive mind: has any one seen, or is there a succesful community render engine? Vswarm seemed like it was going on the right track, but it seems to be pretty much dead. Other attempts in other platforms seem to be equally dead. Does anyone know why these keep failing?

albertolindesign · 10-01-2012, 12:42 PM

*cough cough* Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

benne · 10-01-2012, 09:11 PM

Maybe Autodesk will with the cloud..
but note that you'd better use legal software before you send your work of to render in some "community" farm.
firms like autodesk are very good in tracking everything

albertolindesign · 12-01-2012, 07:25 PM

Beene, Youre right of course, but thats a point I keep thinking about. If we sit around and wait for Autodesk to make one for us, it will cost us and cost us in ways we wont imagine. Im not going to weigh in on illegal or legal software issues, thats a whole new discussion topic. What I will say is that a community render farm would take care of the community it serves. Any rendering cloud that Autodesk creates will be taking care of autodesk first and last, at the expense of us, the users. The current autodesk cloud is for subscribers only, which is no cheap affair. On top of the premium we would already pay, Autodesks Project pandora clearly shows that they intend to bill additionaly for each render.

benne · 13-01-2012, 09:11 PM

yes indeed! =) I'm also not to fond of the upcoming autodesk cloud tools.. and i fear that there will never be a realy good community render farm.

It will always be hard for a freelancer/freetime artist to spend time and money to render their work on their own machines. (and it may come only worse.. rendering with mental ray works fine so far, in my experience.. but that iray renderer of autodesk needs some top of the bill render machines =o )

As soon as there will be a render farm for the "community", there will be a huge firm behind it with the intend to control and make money

albertolindesign · 15-01-2012, 04:10 PM

Beene: Funding seems to be the biggest deal. The simplest line is of course the company line: they pre-fund everything at great cost and great risk to themselves, so the compensation required is great. I dont blame autodesk for that.

But their product is largely inaccesible for the majority of us. But as a community, we have strength in numbers. If we all chipped in a few bucks the system could easily be funded. Heck, if every render was 5-10$ the system could easily fund itslef.

Of course, nobody will chip in anything on a pipe dream. You have to have to show something to "prove it" I really dont see anyone stepping in to throw the amount of cash required to get this sort of community app programed, functional, servers, bandwith...etc.

Is there an SKD community that would be charitable to programming such a thing? Maybe someone could make a great pitch? lol.

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albertolindesign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Community rendering Hi everyone! So, a question to the hive mind: has any one seen, or is there a succesful community render engine? Vswarm seemed like it was going on the right track, but it seems to be pretty much dead. Other attempts in other platforms seem to be equally dead. Does anyone know why these keep failing?

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10-01-2012, 12:42 PM	#2
albertolindesign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	cough cough Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

10-01-2012, 09:11 PM	#3
benne Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ghent, Belgium Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Maybe Autodesk will with the cloud.. but note that you'd better use legal software before you send your work of to render in some "community" farm. firms like autodesk are very good in tracking everything

12-01-2012, 07:25 PM	#4
albertolindesign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Beene, Youre right of course, but thats a point I keep thinking about. If we sit around and wait for Autodesk to make one for us, it will cost us and cost us in ways we wont imagine. Im not going to weigh in on illegal or legal software issues, thats a whole new discussion topic. What I will say is that a community render farm would take care of the community it serves. Any rendering cloud that Autodesk creates will be taking care of autodesk first and last, at the expense of us, the users. The current autodesk cloud is for subscribers only, which is no cheap affair. On top of the premium we would already pay, Autodesks Project pandora clearly shows that they intend to bill additionaly for each render.

13-01-2012, 09:11 PM	#5
benne Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ghent, Belgium Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	yes indeed! =) I'm also not to fond of the upcoming autodesk cloud tools.. and i fear that there will never be a realy good community render farm. It will always be hard for a freelancer/freetime artist to spend time and money to render their work on their own machines. (and it may come only worse.. rendering with mental ray works fine so far, in my experience.. but that iray renderer of autodesk needs some top of the bill render machines =o ) As soon as there will be a render farm for the "community", there will be a huge firm behind it with the intend to control and make money

15-01-2012, 04:10 PM	#6
albertolindesign Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Beene: Funding seems to be the biggest deal. The simplest line is of course the company line: they pre-fund everything at great cost and great risk to themselves, so the compensation required is great. I dont blame autodesk for that. But their product is largely inaccesible for the majority of us. But as a community, we have strength in numbers. If we all chipped in a few bucks the system could easily be funded. Heck, if every render was 5-10$ the system could easily fund itslef. Of course, nobody will chip in anything on a pipe dream. You have to have to show something to "prove it" I really dont see anyone stepping in to throw the amount of cash required to get this sort of community app programed, functional, servers, bandwith...etc. Is there an SKD community that would be charitable to programming such a thing? Maybe someone could make a great pitch? lol.

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