Realistic Model: Human Female

Borg · 09-12-2003, 11:31 AM

Ok, i know i realy should finnish that other elf, But its not turning out too well with that body. I want to practice my modeling skills anyway so i am going to attempt to make a realistic character, correct proportions etc.

i'm posting so soon so i can fix any mistakes you guys pic up.

i couldn't resize the pics or get a wire shot coz photoshop won't open. but this is the cleanest mesh i have made only 3 triangles around the nose (that i could find anyway)

side view

front view

Dutchman · 09-12-2003, 11:46 AM

Great! I like it! With some great texturework it will be "magnificent"

The only comment of me is that the head is in the frontview a bit to > <

(I can't find the enlish word; in dutch: "te smal"

).

Borg · 09-12-2003, 10:31 PM

thanks dutchman,
i still have lots of details to add but this is the main modeling of the head finnished.

I am guessing that "te smal" or "> <" means the head isn't wide enough or too skinny. i'l look at teh ref agian. she had lots of hair and it was hard to tell how wide her head realy was.

now that i look at it, the top of the head is definately too skinny.

Borg · 10-12-2003, 10:40 AM

i fixed up the head a bit, i found out that the cheeks where too thin

Dutchman · 10-12-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Borg
I am guessing that "te smal" or "> <" means the head isn't wide enough or too skinny.

Yes, that's right!

I like it now even more...! Now in my opinion it looks some more organic...! My only comment nów, is that the lips (I don't know I call right; I mean, around the mouth) have to visible egdes (above the mouth; down the nose), if I were you I would push the verticles there some to the back...

Borg · 11-12-2003, 10:03 AM

thanx dutchman, yeah they are called lips and i agree about them.

I realy want to get this model to look realistic, i'v never been able to do that, if anyone has any suggestions to make it look better it would realy be helpful.

here a wire

Dutchman · 11-12-2003, 02:52 PM

Jeah... I'm back...

The same you type, I have also very often! I have also modelled very often faces, but never it looks good... Now I've reference images of my (little

) sister, to model it. Í've started with a rectangle; coverted to editable mesh, and extruding it along the picture (in front view). After that I've moved the points in the left view to the good position... Now I'm in this stadium...

But, ontopic; to make it more realistic you could maybe edit something to the nostrills. That's the only place I find a bit inrealistic (at the moment

)...

Ninto · 11-12-2003, 05:51 PM

Nice model, but like dutchman said: the nostrills look a bit wierd to me.

offtopic: Dutchman, have you created a topic for your sister's head model?

Dutchman · 11-12-2003, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninto
offtopic: Dutchman, have you created a topic for your sister's head model?

No, not yet, but tomorrow, when it's WEEKEND (!

) I can model on, and create a topic about it

Now ontopic again...

[edit:] Borg, how have you modelled it? I the same way as I discribe some posts above this, or from one box?!?

Corky13 · 11-12-2003, 07:50 PM

looks good

But dont forget the triangle

Borg · 11-12-2003, 09:42 PM

Hey dutchman, no i box modeled my head, i find its easier because you can see the whole head and how it looks from start to finnish, i used to hate it but now i mainly box model.

if you have max 4 or above i suggest u use edit poly and not mesh. its personal preference but edit poly behaves much better than mesh, there are also some tools u can download that makes modeling much easier.

yeah i'l try to make the nostrils more natural thanks

Ninto: thanks

corky: yeah i saw the triangle, but triangles are not as bad as some people believe, the triangles in my mesh havent effected the smoothing much. plus i would just have to add more polys to get rid of it which would be a waste.

thanx for ur comments guys

Edit: i'l be looking out for ya sister head thread dutchman

Borg · 12-12-2003, 11:02 AM

here is her ear.
i fixed up her nostrils and mouth, but i'l post a pic when i'v done a bit more

rubberduck · 12-12-2003, 02:00 PM

It's looking good, but I think the ears should be moved up some and the hole/opening in the ear is too small

Peter Hutton · 12-12-2003, 02:49 PM

Looking good so far

But what I would do is the pull these verts as in da pic.
Also I would use a bit glossiness in the material to point out the contours of the surface.
Looking forward to this.

Borg · 12-12-2003, 11:36 PM

thanks for the crits guys

Rubberduck: i moved the ears up, i think they are in the correct place - about eyebrow height to the bottom of the nose, at teh moment i have just placed the ears there so i can see how it will look, i'l weld them on later.

Peter Hutton: Thanks had been playing around with the mouth for ages trying to get rid of the ****** creases, and all i had to do was move the verts out a bit

I added some glossiness to it.

here is an update:

edit: i changed the pic, small update

09-12-2003, 11:31 AM	#1
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Realistic Model: Human Female Ok, i know i realy should finnish that other elf, But its not turning out too well with that body. I want to practice my modeling skills anyway so i am going to attempt to make a realistic character, correct proportions etc. i'm posting so soon so i can fix any mistakes you guys pic up. i couldn't resize the pics or get a wire shot coz photoshop won't open. but this is the cleanest mesh i have made only 3 triangles around the nose (that i could find anyway) side view front view

09-12-2003, 11:46 AM	#2
Dutchman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Netherlands - Nispen Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Great! I like it! With some great texturework it will be "magnificent" The only comment of me is that the head is in the frontview a bit to > < (I can't find the enlish word; in dutch: "te smal" ). __________________ *Holland = OK!* ================ Current contest: Machineflesh @ CGnetworks Cheetech Boxx-droid @ Threedy zHero Please reply what you think of it!

10-12-2003, 10:40 AM	#4
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i fixed up the head a bit, i found out that the cheeks where too thin Last edited by Borg; 10-12-2003 at 10:43 AM..

11-12-2003, 02:52 PM	#7
Dutchman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Netherlands - Nispen Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jeah... I'm back... The same you type, I have also very often! I have also modelled very often faces, but never it looks good... Now I've reference images of my (little ) sister, to model it. Í've started with a rectangle; coverted to editable mesh, and extruding it along the picture (in front view). After that I've moved the points in the left view to the good position... Now I'm in this stadium... But, ontopic; to make it more realistic you could maybe edit something to the nostrills. That's the only place I find a bit inrealistic (at the moment )... __________________ *Holland = OK!* ================ Current contest: Machineflesh @ CGnetworks Cheetech Boxx-droid @ Threedy zHero Please reply what you think of it!

11-12-2003, 07:50 PM	#10
Corky13 traveller in graphite Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Europe Austria Posts: 611 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	looks good But dont forget the triangle Attached Images __________________ ...signature... impressive isn´t it ?

09-12-2003, 10:31 PM	#3
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks dutchman, i still have lots of details to add but this is the main modeling of the head finnished. I am guessing that "te smal" or "> <" means the head isn't wide enough or too skinny. i'l look at teh ref agian. she had lots of hair and it was hard to tell how wide her head realy was. now that i look at it, the top of the head is definately too skinny.

11-12-2003, 10:03 AM	#6
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanx dutchman, yeah they are called lips and i agree about them. I realy want to get this model to look realistic, i'v never been able to do that, if anyone has any suggestions to make it look better it would realy be helpful. here a wire

11-12-2003, 05:51 PM	#8
Ninto b4k4 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 609 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice model, but like dutchman said: the nostrills look a bit wierd to me. offtopic: Dutchman, have you created a topic for your sister's head model?

11-12-2003, 09:42 PM	#11
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey dutchman, no i box modeled my head, i find its easier because you can see the whole head and how it looks from start to finnish, i used to hate it but now i mainly box model. if you have max 4 or above i suggest u use edit poly and not mesh. its personal preference but edit poly behaves much better than mesh, there are also some tools u can download that makes modeling much easier. yeah i'l try to make the nostrils more natural thanks Ninto: thanks corky: yeah i saw the triangle, but triangles are not as bad as some people believe, the triangles in my mesh havent effected the smoothing much. plus i would just have to add more polys to get rid of it which would be a waste. thanx for ur comments guys Edit: i'l be looking out for ya sister head thread dutchman Last edited by Borg; 11-12-2003 at 09:50 PM..

12-12-2003, 11:02 AM	#12
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	here is her ear. i fixed up her nostrils and mouth, but i'l post a pic when i'v done a bit more

12-12-2003, 02:00 PM	#13
rubberduck LightWave 3D User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,219 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's looking good, but I think the ears should be moved up some and the hole/opening in the ear is too small __________________ Art Is Not A Thing; It's A Way - Elbert Hubbard

12-12-2003, 02:49 PM	#14
Peter Hutton Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Happy Happy Nokialand Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking good so far But what I would do is the pull these verts as in da pic. Also I would use a bit glossiness in the material to point out the contours of the surface. Looking forward to this. Attached Images __________________ Graphic artist www.blackmetalgames.fi

12-12-2003, 11:36 PM	#15
Borg orc Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 385 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for the crits guys Rubberduck: i moved the ears up, i think they are in the correct place - about eyebrow height to the bottom of the nose, at teh moment i have just placed the ears there so i can see how it will look, i'l weld them on later. Peter Hutton: Thanks had been playing around with the mouth for ages trying to get rid of the ****** creases, and all i had to do was move the verts out a bit I added some glossiness to it. here is an update: edit: i changed the pic, small update Last edited by Borg; 13-12-2003 at 12:18 AM..

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