A rangers grove...

StarSlicer · 07-02-2004, 02:45 AM

Ok, this is a project I have been working on for some time. It is a signature for my Ever Quest guild leader to use on her Ever Quest message boards. I asked her what she wanted ect ect. She said Trees, water, butterflies and the like. I wasn't sure where this would go at first, but since it will have her humanoid character leaning up against a tree in the end, I put it in this forum. This is my first real outdoor type of scene since I almost always do an interior. So feel free to pinch my skin and give me some CC. It's always welcome from the people and mods who cruise this forum.

I started off by drawing kind of what I wanted a while back.

Then I started to model the area.

Then, I put in a terrible looking lens flare and a sky.

Then, I took out the terrible lens flare and used a spotlight to create a rainbow on the water.

Then, just a few days ago, I used an opacity map to create a better rainbow. I also ditched the sun for a faded planet and put sunrays beaming down from the top. And the butterflies she wanted hehe. I also reworked the texture I used on the ocean in back.

So is there anything you guys think I should change in the background before I go ahead and work the character model?

Jason-Lavoie · 07-02-2004, 02:49 AM

Not bad dude, but its not perfect (sorry, i really don't like saying that) i KNOW you can make it better, since you made that scence from that pic, the colors are weird, make the tree and the grass have like a LUSH green, a very nice soft green, and the water fall... you will have to chnage the color, maybe make a ranbow coming from the sea going into the rainbow or somthing... but yeah really cool, i like the butterflies... hehe
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Jason-Lavoie · 07-02-2004, 02:51 AM

Also i was just goimg through it ,i like the planet dude, BUT, you need some mist coming from the waterfall dude.. theres nothing happening when it hits the water

StarSlicer · 07-02-2004, 03:37 AM

Nah, hey it's ok, you can say whatever you want hehe. If I didn't want some CC I wouldn't have posted it up in here.

Jason-Lavoie · 07-02-2004, 04:48 AM

Well then, if thats the case... IT ROCKS, ha ha its really good dude, maybe like an adam and eve thing... he he NAKED!

CountZero · 07-02-2004, 07:52 AM

I don't like the waterfall, and the rock it comes from is odd too. A smaller stream of water going down from a not-so-vertical mountain/rock would be better, now it looks kinda surrealistic. Otherwise it's a nice picture.

StarSlicer · 07-02-2004, 05:57 PM

There seems to be concern over the waterfall. I myself am not real happy with it either. I'm going to redo that entire section.

rubberduck · 07-02-2004, 06:39 PM

Hope you don't mind, I took your image into Photoshop and made some changes that I think you should do

StarSlicer · 07-02-2004, 07:19 PM

I was actually hoping sombody would. Was that a custom brush or what?

Holo · 07-02-2004, 07:55 PM

Ive come up with a good method of creating a realistic looking Waterfall.
Im still working on making it animate properly, but since you are creating a still, it should be helpful to you.

StarSlicer · 07-02-2004, 08:07 PM

I think that will be a huge success to be honest. I just looked for an hour for a decent waterfall tutorial and nothing came of it. There are not many for 3D Max. And what little there are out there, are generally for Bryce. I look foward to reading it very much.

Phynius Gauge · 07-02-2004, 08:08 PM

It is looking pretty good. I think the sun's rays in the fourth pic need to be more subtle. I think you also might be better off using a photo for the ocean in the backround. You should add rocks and pebbles along the pathway. Oh, and I dont like the tree that much. I guess the trunk looks too "linear," and I think you could make the tree much more interesting. I think with a little more work this image could be excellent.

StarSlicer · 08-02-2004, 08:22 AM

Well, I modeled a new rock for the waterfall. The last one was poor. This multi level formation should do fine. I'll move it to the right, connect it and texture it up while I wait to see if I can use Holo's tutorial and techniques to make a waterfall on it.

StarSlicer · 15-02-2004, 06:38 AM

I texured the new rock area. Raised the arch some. And I used textporter to put some green mossy stuff in where I felt the water would be flowing. I think now, I will either remodel the tree, or put in the water falling.

sarN · 15-02-2004, 07:15 AM

very nice improvement

the new rock area works much better witht the scene. Perhaps some flowers or something around by the trees?

07-02-2004, 02:45 AM	#1
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A rangers grove... Ok, this is a project I have been working on for some time. It is a signature for my Ever Quest guild leader to use on her Ever Quest message boards. I asked her what she wanted ect ect. She said Trees, water, butterflies and the like. I wasn't sure where this would go at first, but since it will have her humanoid character leaning up against a tree in the end, I put it in this forum. This is my first real outdoor type of scene since I almost always do an interior. So feel free to pinch my skin and give me some CC. It's always welcome from the people and mods who cruise this forum. I started off by drawing kind of what I wanted a while back. Then I started to model the area. Then, I put in a terrible looking lens flare and a sky. Then, I took out the terrible lens flare and used a spotlight to create a rainbow on the water. Then, just a few days ago, I used an opacity map to create a better rainbow. I also ditched the sun for a faded planet and put sunrays beaming down from the top. And the butterflies she wanted hehe. I also reworked the texture I used on the ocean in back. So is there anything you guys think I should change in the background before I go ahead and work the character model?

07-02-2004, 02:49 AM	#2
Jason-Lavoie Dominance War CRAZED! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,730 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not bad dude, but its not perfect (sorry, i really don't like saying that) i KNOW you can make it better, since you made that scence from that pic, the colors are weird, make the tree and the grass have like a LUSH green, a very nice soft green, and the water fall... you will have to chnage the color, maybe make a ranbow coming from the sea going into the rainbow or somthing... but yeah really cool, i like the butterflies... hehe ________ vaporizer affiliate program Last edited by Jason-Lavoie; 27-01-2011 at 08:14 AM..

07-02-2004, 02:51 AM	#3
Jason-Lavoie Dominance War CRAZED! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,730 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Also i was just goimg through it ,i like the planet dude, BUT, you need some mist coming from the waterfall dude.. theres nothing happening when it hits the water __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- - Portfolio - - MMO Inspired Character - - Bohica Studios - -------------------------------------------------------

07-02-2004, 04:48 AM	#5
Jason-Lavoie Dominance War CRAZED! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 2,730 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well then, if thats the case... IT ROCKS, ha ha its really good dude, maybe like an adam and eve thing... he he NAKED! __________________ ------------------------------------------------------- - Portfolio - - MMO Inspired Character - - Bohica Studios - -------------------------------------------------------

07-02-2004, 06:39 PM	#8
rubberduck LightWave 3D User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,219 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hope you don't mind, I took your image into Photoshop and made some changes that I think you should do Attached Images __________________ Art Is Not A Thing; It's A Way - Elbert Hubbard

07-02-2004, 03:37 AM	#4
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nah, hey it's ok, you can say whatever you want hehe. If I didn't want some CC I wouldn't have posted it up in here.

07-02-2004, 07:52 AM	#6
CountZero Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden Posts: 253 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't like the waterfall, and the rock it comes from is odd too. A smaller stream of water going down from a not-so-vertical mountain/rock would be better, now it looks kinda surrealistic. Otherwise it's a nice picture.

07-02-2004, 05:57 PM	#7
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There seems to be concern over the waterfall. I myself am not real happy with it either. I'm going to redo that entire section.

07-02-2004, 07:19 PM	#9
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was actually hoping sombody would. Was that a custom brush or what? Last edited by StarSlicer; 07-02-2004 at 07:22 PM..

07-02-2004, 07:55 PM	#10
Holo Rusty Wireframe Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Maple, Ontario, Canada Posts: 616 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Ill tell you what StarSlicer, youve inspired me to write a tutorial on this issue. Ive come up with a good method of creating a realistic looking Waterfall. Im still working on making it animate properly, but since you are creating a still, it should be helpful to you. __________________ "Despite the High cost of Living, It Remains Popular" -Mark. K. Lightwave User VV -- DW IV -- VV http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=65851

07-02-2004, 08:07 PM	#11
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think that will be a huge success to be honest. I just looked for an hour for a decent waterfall tutorial and nothing came of it. There are not many for 3D Max. And what little there are out there, are generally for Bryce. I look foward to reading it very much.

07-02-2004, 08:08 PM	#12
Phynius Gauge Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,477 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is looking pretty good. I think the sun's rays in the fourth pic need to be more subtle. I think you also might be better off using a photo for the ocean in the backround. You should add rocks and pebbles along the pathway. Oh, and I dont like the tree that much. I guess the trunk looks too "linear," and I think you could make the tree much more interesting. I think with a little more work this image could be excellent.

08-02-2004, 08:22 AM	#13
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I modeled a new rock for the waterfall. The last one was poor. This multi level formation should do fine. I'll move it to the right, connect it and texture it up while I wait to see if I can use Holo's tutorial and techniques to make a waterfall on it.

15-02-2004, 06:38 AM	#14
StarSlicer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I texured the new rock area. Raised the arch some. And I used textporter to put some green mossy stuff in where I felt the water would be flowing. I think now, I will either remodel the tree, or put in the water falling. Last edited by StarSlicer; 15-02-2004 at 06:45 AM..

15-02-2004, 07:15 AM	#15
sarN Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 2,238 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 8	very nice improvement the new rock area works much better witht the scene. Perhaps some flowers or something around by the trees?

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