riging the eyes when using biped?!!

znewsokoban · 17-03-2004, 07:24 PM

hi all, i need advice for the best way for rigging the eyes when using character studio as my boning system,
well, i already made some rig but i am having problems with it , the eyes are seperate objects from the head mesh, i linked them
to the Biped head and applied a look at constraint for each of them so they always point to a seperate dummy for each of them.
then i linked both those dummies to another master one for
easy manipulation, then i linked the master dummy to the Biped head, ok? now when testing the rig:
the eyes follow correctly without any troubles when the biped's head rotates in 2 directions , when it rotates around
the 3rd one comes the trouble, the eyes offsets from each other
as if they have different targets to look at?!! i attached an image
to show the axe that makes trouble so plz check..
now is this way of rigging CORRECT or WRONG?
and if it is correct , iis there a way to fix this?
plz help, thanx in ADVANCE

Bluder · 18-03-2004, 01:00 AM

what software?
everyone keeps forget to include that in there question

znewsokoban · 18-03-2004, 01:19 AM

well it is 3DMAX 5.0 . sorry for not mentioning it before but i thought that when i say biped/ Character studio it will be
clear that it is max..

Fizzy · 18-03-2004, 07:38 AM

I've never rigged eyes like this. It sounds like a pretty decent system though. My first suggestion would be to remove all the links then redo them. You may have linked something to something you didn't want to link it to.

Since I've not used this system before I have to ask. Is that final dummy linked to the head bone?

I don't use the dummies and just link the eyes directly to the cs head bone. Then I set the rotate to World instead of view (I think, I'll have to check this) and just rotate the eyes. I know it's not the most effecient system, but it works.

znewsokoban · 18-03-2004, 08:03 AM

yes Fizzy, i do link the master dummy to the Biped head bone,
and i tried so many times to redo the whole thing from scratch
but always fail and the same problem occurs, now can i ask you
how do you manipulate the eyeballs?, do you select them both
and rotate them?, because there is got to be a way for their moves, so they can point to some direction, right?

17-03-2004, 07:24 PM	#1
znewsokoban Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	rigging the eyes when using biped?!! hi all, i need advice for the best way for rigging the eyes when using character studio as my boning system, well, i already made some rig but i am having problems with it , the eyes are seperate objects from the head mesh, i linked them to the Biped head and applied a look at constraint for each of them so they always point to a seperate dummy for each of them. then i linked both those dummies to another master one for easy manipulation, then i linked the master dummy to the Biped head, ok? now when testing the rig: the eyes follow correctly without any troubles when the biped's head rotates in 2 directions , when it rotates around the 3rd one comes the trouble, the eyes offsets from each other as if they have different targets to look at?!! i attached an image to show the axe that makes trouble so plz check.. now is this way of rigging CORRECT or WRONG? and if it is correct , iis there a way to fix this? plz help, thanx in ADVANCE Last edited by znewsokoban; 18-03-2004 at 01:14 AM..

18-03-2004, 01:00 AM	#2
Bluder Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sweden, Trollhättan Posts: 134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	what software? everyone keeps forget to include that in there question __________________ mmm.meindbender.com

18-03-2004, 01:19 AM	#3
znewsokoban Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oops!! well it is 3DMAX 5.0 . sorry for not mentioning it before but i thought that when i say biped/ Character studio it will be clear that it is max..

18-03-2004, 07:38 AM	#4
Fizzy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 109 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've never rigged eyes like this. It sounds like a pretty decent system though. My first suggestion would be to remove all the links then redo them. You may have linked something to something you didn't want to link it to. Since I've not used this system before I have to ask. Is that final dummy linked to the head bone? I don't use the dummies and just link the eyes directly to the cs head bone. Then I set the rotate to World instead of view (I think, I'll have to check this) and just rotate the eyes. I know it's not the most effecient system, but it works. __________________ The one thing I've learned is that a perfectly normal guy doesn't fall in love with one half of a pair of siamese twins. - K. Dunn My website

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18-03-2004, 08:03 AM	#5
znewsokoban Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes Fizzy, i do link the master dummy to the Biped head bone, and i tried so many times to redo the whole thing from scratch but always fail and the same problem occurs, now can i ask you how do you manipulate the eyeballs?, do you select them both and rotate them?, because there is got to be a way for their moves, so they can point to some direction, right?

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