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Old 21-03-2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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Old 21-03-2004, 01:31 PM   #2
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Old 21-03-2004, 01:35 PM   #3
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hmm looks like a fake, look at the claws/finger ends, it looks to solid to have been skin. if it really is real.. then w00t is all i can say! clone it
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Old 21-03-2004, 01:55 PM   #4
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It's a fake, or maybe it's a mutated lizard or something. But it looks really cool!

I don't think that it's real, because someone would have found bones of them before. They never found something dragonlike, but they found one in a garage? Hmm....confusing....

Lol, as Blackwolf said. A real living one would be cool. I always wanted to see how they move, eat..
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Old 21-03-2004, 04:17 PM   #5
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well, obviously it's a fake...

I mean hell, they sure would of found out if it was wax or rubber! Jeez, it would of taken em less than a minute to pry open that lid to see if it was indeed organic.
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Old 21-03-2004, 06:31 PM   #6
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*sneeze* Photoshop *sneeze*

That looks kinda cool but from what ive seen with what photoshop can actually do.......I don't believe nothing anymore.

But actually reptiles do have claws like that. When they look "dead" their skin above the claws curl up.......but still.

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Old 21-03-2004, 09:54 PM   #7
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Hmm... dont the eye sockets sink into things when they die...
Even if it was a Dragon?

The artist made a mistake
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Old 21-03-2004, 11:57 PM   #8
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thats just perception, if u had dragon skin that may not happen =/ if its real it may look fake because of our perceptions anyway, the real thing might exist but would we recognise it?
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As Fusion said, from what i've seen that is possible to do with digital aplications I don't belive much things i see

But on the other hand, this one look good, actually really good. Maybe it was a kind of a lizard before, with wings, but (due to Darwin's Origin of Species theory) it lost them. And now it's just a commom lizard...
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Well, if dragons did exist. Ones like this didnt IMO

Because: It has 6 limbs. How many other species (excluding insects which this is not) have 6 limbs? Answer: None. If this creature ever existed it would have had to evolve from 6 footed into 4 footed and 2 wings. Where are the 6 footed ones that didnt develop wings?

I think theres 2 questions here:

1) Is this a hoax? YES
2) Are there such things as Dragons? Maybe, but not looking like this
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Old 22-03-2004, 12:50 PM   #11
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common guys!!!!!!!!

the article says they don't even KNOW if it's organic or rubber or wax!!! You really think they would of printed an article and not have opened the damn jar??? If there were any chance it were real, scientists would of opened it right away!!! lol
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Yeah I think it's a fake too guys. It certainly ain't photoshop. But Still I think it's cool anyhow.
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maybe its a mutated winged reptile. U have them on some indonesian islands i think and those are reptiles with wings with which they can fly a little bit Prolly one of those . If we had dragons they would've been found already, and mankind knowing extinct too
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maybe its a mutated winged reptile. U have them on some indonesian islands i think and those are reptiles with wings with which they can fly a little bit Prolly one of those . If we had dragons they would've been found already, and mankind knowing extinct too
They have flaps of skin and only 4 limbs. You cant just mutate extra limbs that fly in one step its too much of a leep.
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There are extrem cases of mutaition that results in extra digits, or limbs. BUT more often than not most of these die or are horribly disfigured. When Ironbuket was taking about a "species have 6 limbs." I believe he ment vertabat animals. Which is a true statement. Vertabrats with in the animal kingdom have a maximum of 4 limbs. Snakes have none though they still have pelvic bones and remnates of collar bones and shoulder structures proving that they at one time did have fore and back legs. Many marine mammels also genrally have their digits and hind legs fused together to aid in aquatic life, but these cases are loses of limbs due to adaptation, not the growth of extra limbs which. The growth of exta limbs such as wings on a 4 legged animal would be much more difficult to achive both due to mussucle stucture and skeletal stucture. It is not what one could say was naturally occuring on this planet.

Sugical alteration could be possable for making this possable but this isn't natural occuring so it is not in discusion of species. The truth is for something from the 1890's or even early 1900's creature hoaxs were quite common, and aften made in that manor. Traveling freak shows were a form of entertainment and profit. Often they would invent animals by taking animal parts and sowing them together and displaying it as the stuffed courpes of some mythical animal. There were always new animal types poping up at these types of shows, they brought in alot of money, and scientist of the time were not as ethical or disaplined in their appoch to proving or disproving things. The empirical methods and controlled experimentaion of today where not common and often some "scienist" would make a startalling discovery.

Neandratal man is an example of this. A Skeleton was found in a cave covered in paintings in France. The skull had a broad sloped forehead and many ape like features. It was termed Neandatal Man. The idea of the Neandratal is still belived mainly due to the fact that thought faulty analisis they declaired to have found a primative species of man, and it was commonly excepted. When in fact the skeleton they found in those caves in France was more recently proven to be an older male Homo Sapien (or man like you and me) who suffered from a disfiguring form of arthritus. The point of the actually existace of a Neandatal species is still in debate though because of other forsels found and the presitance of the idea formed from this faulty classifacation. I mearly use this fact to point out that even today scientists do not agree on things even with scientific fact.

Dragons are, in fact, real though. On the Island of Komodo there lives to worlds larges species of monitor lizard. it is named the Komodo Dragon or the Varanus Komodoensis. Sizes average adult males is 8.6 feet, 200 pounds, and females 7.6 feet weighting in at a modest 150 pounds. Bacteria in mouth infects prey when bitten, this usually causes death by blood poisoning, if prey escapes it usually dies within 1 - 2 days (Blood poisoning in often talked about as felling like you body is on fire.)
Now tell me that isn't a real dragon.

Though I think we do all agree that this pickeled thing is a fake. I figured I put my degree in Biology to use just to drive home that fact.
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