3dsmax: bones-arm & hands

[bunglo]

hi every one, i have set up a simple character with a simple bone set up (testing for animation) now, i already have the spine and head and legs set up, but im a little stumpted at doing the arms and hands. If any one knows of any simple bone set up tutorials (for the arms and hands) please tell me. I also need to kno how to set up the ik links for it and the controles also. But im not going to do the tutorial that comes with 3dsmax, tried it a few months ago, HATED IT!!!!! lol, well tell me if u have any links or "hints" thx