VS Challenge

goat · 03-07-2005, 08:31 AM

This is a new VS challenge we will be having every 2 weeks. It isn’t for any prizes just for some practice and to learn from your peers. It can be up to 4 but no less the 2 people. I will give a subject then you and the other challengers will have 2 weeks to finish modeling the subject. All texturing, unwrapping, animating, etc are all optional if time allows it. This is just a modeling exercise to help show your technique and workflow to others as well as learning how someone else approaches the same subject. Also this is a good way to help you keep deadlines on short notice, very important in the real world.

There will be an inorganic and organic challenge every 2 weeks. If you would like to join please PM me with “VS challenge organic (or inorganic)” in the subject with what type you would like to join. It will be first come first serve.

This is NOT a “who is a better modeler” challenge. This is a healthy challenge to improve your self and others in the contest. So please no “that model is better than this model” just keep it clean and constructive with critiques.

I will provide the initial reference. But please feel free to find as much as you can on your own.

Any questions, comments, or suggestion please post in this thread.
http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread...355#post357355

goat · 03-07-2005, 08:39 AM

First up for the VS challenge will be

Limion vs Drew Cary vs David Carpian vs Invert

Here is your subject, you will have untill Sunday July 17th 12:00 EST to finish.

The Samurai 3000.

MORE REFERANCE

Good Luck.

limion · 03-07-2005, 01:28 PM

does it have to be this exact katana? or any sword from that site?

Drew Carey · 03-07-2005, 01:31 PM

Interesting choice Goat! Two weeks would really give us time to get all those details worked in...
Good luck guys!

Edit: Limion, I suspect he means only the Samurai 3000 Katana

limion · 03-07-2005, 01:35 PM

allrihihightyyy then! let's get it on!!
wish you all the best of luck! 3+))

can any of you read what the button does exactly (on the reference site)? it's written in red, but i can't read it.
-->nevermind found it. it locks/releases the scabbard.

btw can we, do we have to post WIP's or just the final thing?

Drew Carey · 03-07-2005, 01:43 PM

I think Goat put it in the WIP section so we could post the progress

However I dunno if it's obligatory...

goat · 03-07-2005, 06:48 PM

Hey guys I would like it if you could post progress in this thread. Just so we could see your progress and to see how you start a project. Also a buddy of mine has this sword so I'm going to try and get it, take some pics of it to give you some more ref. I'll try anyway.

limion · 03-07-2005, 07:38 PM

that would help a lot because even the left view isn't completly left. if that makes sense. here's my early WIP guess wich of the two i made 3+))

Drew Carey · 03-07-2005, 08:44 PM

Nice start Limion, I suggest you don't rush it so much. We have two weeks and it looks like you'll be done tonight

. Take time to study the sword and plan your model, at least that's I how I find I usually get the best results

. Also, don't forcefully use the "model-on-image" type method (which if I understand correctly is what you're doing with that profile shot) if the reference doesn't allow it. If you have a good understanding of how the object looks, you could just "free model" it (sorry for the lack of real modeling terms). Anyways, I'm just trying to help; I know you didn't ask for any crits

.

What bothers me most about the reference images is that I can't seem to find an image of the opposite side of the hilt as it's shown in the pic Goat posted. I'm guessing the hilt is symmetrical on a horizontal slice plane, but I think we're gonna have to improvise some of the details...

invert · 03-07-2005, 09:47 PM

oh man sweet. I cant wait to get started on this

EDIT: hey goat I have a request for refs if you are able to get the sword from your buddy. a back end perspective angle of the handle, and a front perspective of the handle. any others you can think up of feel free. Also good luck everyone.

EDIT2: just got another ref request, the underside of the handle by the handgrips, if you dont know what I mean then ill cirlcle it

David Ciprian · 03-07-2005, 09:54 PM

Interesting subject. It'll be a while until i start modeling...maybe you'll all be finished by then

invert · 03-07-2005, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew Carey

What bothers me most about the reference images is that I can't seem to find an image of the opposite side of the hilt as it's shown in the pic Goat posted. I'm guessing the hilt is symmetrical on a horizontal slice plane, but I think we're gonna have to improvise some of the details...

I was wondering the same thing bout the other side, my guess is its symmetrical so thats how im gonna go about doing so

limion · 03-07-2005, 11:15 PM

me too. btw i know i started really quick, but i don't have any time this weekend. besides if i'm done really soon, i'll probably start over. the second is always a lot better than the first.

invert · 04-07-2005, 01:18 AM

heres a tiny update. just got part of the handle done. gonna do the handle before I move onto the other parts. So next update should hold most of the details in the handle.

invert · 04-07-2005, 04:00 AM

well, theres not that much detail added but I figured since this will be my last update for the day id show what I got. gots to go to a friends so I proabably wont be able to model till tommorow or so. well here it is

03-07-2005, 08:31 AM	#1
goat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 832 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	VS Challenge This is a new VS challenge we will be having every 2 weeks. It isn’t for any prizes just for some practice and to learn from your peers. It can be up to 4 but no less the 2 people. I will give a subject then you and the other challengers will have 2 weeks to finish modeling the subject. All texturing, unwrapping, animating, etc are all optional if time allows it. This is just a modeling exercise to help show your technique and workflow to others as well as learning how someone else approaches the same subject. Also this is a good way to help you keep deadlines on short notice, very important in the real world. There will be an inorganic and organic challenge every 2 weeks. If you would like to join please PM me with “VS challenge organic (or inorganic)” in the subject with what type you would like to join. It will be first come first serve. This is NOT a “who is a better modeler” challenge. This is a healthy challenge to improve your self and others in the contest. So please no “that model is better than this model” just keep it clean and constructive with critiques. I will provide the initial reference. But please feel free to find as much as you can on your own. Any questions, comments, or suggestion please post in this thread. http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread...355#post357355 __________________ http://www.jumpinmyhead.com/frontpage.html Last edited by goat; 03-07-2005 at 06:50 PM..

03-07-2005, 08:39 AM	#2
goat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 832 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	First up for the VS challenge will be Limion vs Drew Cary vs David Carpian vs Invert Here is your subject, you will have untill Sunday July 17th 12:00 EST to finish. The Samurai 3000. MORE REFERANCE Good Luck. __________________ http://www.jumpinmyhead.com/frontpage.html Last edited by goat; 03-07-2005 at 08:47 AM..

03-07-2005, 01:31 PM	#4
Drew Carey Higher-ranking affiliate Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Behind YOU! Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting choice Goat! Two weeks would really give us time to get all those details worked in... Good luck guys! Edit: Limion, I suspect he means only the Samurai 3000 Katana __________________ Robotic Dinosaur Of Doom Last edited by Drew Carey; 03-07-2005 at 01:38 PM..

03-07-2005, 01:35 PM	#5
limion chld of darkness&betrayal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	allrihihightyyy then! let's get it on!! wish you all the best of luck! 3+)) can any of you read what the button does exactly (on the reference site)? it's written in red, but i can't read it. -->nevermind found it. it locks/releases the scabbard. btw can we, do we have to post WIP's or just the final thing? Last edited by limion; 03-07-2005 at 01:41 PM..

03-07-2005, 01:43 PM	#6
Drew Carey Higher-ranking affiliate Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Behind YOU! Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think Goat put it in the WIP section so we could post the progress However I dunno if it's obligatory... __________________ Robotic Dinosaur Of Doom Last edited by Drew Carey; 03-07-2005 at 02:30 PM..

03-07-2005, 01:28 PM	#3
limion chld of darkness&betrayal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	does it have to be this exact katana? or any sword from that site?

03-07-2005, 06:48 PM	#7
goat Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 832 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey guys I would like it if you could post progress in this thread. Just so we could see your progress and to see how you start a project. Also a buddy of mine has this sword so I'm going to try and get it, take some pics of it to give you some more ref. I'll try anyway. __________________ http://www.jumpinmyhead.com/frontpage.html

03-07-2005, 07:38 PM	#8
limion chld of darkness&betrayal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that would help a lot because even the left view isn't completly left. if that makes sense. here's my early WIP guess wich of the two i made 3+))

03-07-2005, 08:44 PM	#9
Drew Carey Higher-ranking affiliate Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Behind YOU! Posts: 205 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nice start Limion, I suggest you don't rush it so much. We have two weeks and it looks like you'll be done tonight . Take time to study the sword and plan your model, at least that's I how I find I usually get the best results . Also, don't forcefully use the "model-on-image" type method (which if I understand correctly is what you're doing with that profile shot) if the reference doesn't allow it. If you have a good understanding of how the object looks, you could just "free model" it (sorry for the lack of real modeling terms). Anyways, I'm just trying to help; I know you didn't ask for any crits . What bothers me most about the reference images is that I can't seem to find an image of the opposite side of the hilt as it's shown in the pic Goat posted. I'm guessing the hilt is symmetrical on a horizontal slice plane, but I think we're gonna have to improvise some of the details... __________________ Robotic Dinosaur Of Doom Last edited by Drew Carey; 03-07-2005 at 09:14 PM..

03-07-2005, 09:47 PM	#10
invert Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in a 3d box Posts: 723 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh man sweet. I cant wait to get started on this EDIT: hey goat I have a request for refs if you are able to get the sword from your buddy. a back end perspective angle of the handle, and a front perspective of the handle. any others you can think up of feel free. Also good luck everyone. EDIT2: just got another ref request, the underside of the handle by the handgrips, if you dont know what I mean then ill cirlcle it Last edited by invert; 04-07-2005 at 01:33 AM..

03-07-2005, 09:54 PM	#11
David Ciprian Blacklow Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: in one's heart Posts: 1,029 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting subject. It'll be a while until i start modeling...maybe you'll all be finished by then __________________ You can never be too good, but you can always try!

03-07-2005, 11:15 PM	#13
limion chld of darkness&betrayal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 633 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	me too. btw i know i started really quick, but i don't have any time this weekend. besides if i'm done really soon, i'll probably start over. the second is always a lot better than the first.

04-07-2005, 01:18 AM	#14
invert Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in a 3d box Posts: 723 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	heres a tiny update. just got part of the handle done. gonna do the handle before I move onto the other parts. So next update should hold most of the details in the handle.

04-07-2005, 04:00 AM	#15
invert Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: in a 3d box Posts: 723 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well, theres not that much detail added but I figured since this will be my last update for the day id show what I got. gots to go to a friends so I proabably wont be able to model till tommorow or so. well here it is

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