Speed Animation Challenge - Week 01 - Swing - Page 4

Pikmin · 13-07-2005, 04:33 AM

If I could decide, we couldnt use any dynamics. No eyes candy dynamics that could make us look those animation instead of the hand-animate character. Just pure animation!

LostBear · 13-07-2005, 02:31 PM

Hi guys...thats looking better shiroii, better camera angle.

Im with Pikmin on the dynamics i think. The trouble with dynamics is they adhere to the laws of physics (not sure about maya but 3ds max has the havok engine built in) so you can set things up in exactly the same way 10 times, but when you run the simulation you will get 10 different results. Its unpredictable, and difficult to keyframe other elements to as you dont know where things are going to end up. With a rig like mine, im in complete control.

About that rig....its nearly finished. Just adding a second controller in to make it twist a little to add a little more to the motion of the swing.

Will post a clip later today.

LostBear · 13-07-2005, 04:39 PM

ok....now were cooking.

http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swing/WIP_SWING_RIG.mov

LostBear · 13-07-2005, 05:35 PM

okey dokey....finished my block anim.

Not happy with the man falling over but theres still 2 days left to iron that out.

take a look...

http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swin...BLOCK_ANIM.mov

LostBear · 13-07-2005, 08:04 PM

Yay!! Looking better now...still not quite there though.

used ragdoll constraints on the biped so after frame 500 reactor kicks in and the "fall" is now physically correct.

http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swing/WIP_RAGDOLL.wmv

anima3d · 13-07-2005, 08:43 PM

Heres my hero : Primitive Robo

Hope its ok for this challenge..

shiroii · 13-07-2005, 09:25 PM

Looks like fun anima3d! Looking forward to it

LostBear, I think you should speed up the animation. But uhm, what's with the ragdoll? That isn't animation, right? It would be muuuuch better if you just hand animated the fall instead of using a ragdoll, because dynamics isn't animation O_o

LostBear · 13-07-2005, 10:01 PM

ermmm yeah. your kinda right.shiroii....but with no definate rule on the use of dynamics i used em. And anyway, if your saw the hand animated fall i did in the block anim movie above, who can blame me!!. it sucked!!.

Yeah it is a little slow, ill fix that.

Blusoul · 13-07-2005, 10:38 PM

Howdy guys,
iv just caught this kinda half way. Im a just observe this time round but will b ready for Monday. I agree wiv Pikmin that animations that dont entail dynamics and all that technical stuff just keep it key framed Character animation based and im a join y'all.

shiroii · 13-07-2005, 11:37 PM

Blusoul, welcome

Looking forward to your entry next week

Ok, I agree with pikmin, Beginning next monday: no more dynamics, every movement = hand made, anything else is disqualified.

LostBear · 14-07-2005, 12:10 AM

Thats fair enough. No more dynamics after this week.

Freespace-3DT · 14-07-2005, 03:16 AM

Aawww... Dang. I love dynamics... Oh well.

Nice character, Anima. Did you make it?
Welcome Blusoul. You can still do something, you know. You've got a day and a half to go.

It is SPEED animation for a reason.

anima3d · 14-07-2005, 05:28 AM

thank u freespace. I make this guy yesterday & as u can see the model its very simple (just primitives)..

Im on the way for the 'short' now..
btw ur animation was amazing!!! i love that song

very funny.

Heres another one pose of my character.. im trying to learn him Karate

Henry_B · 14-07-2005, 06:04 AM

man!! havent saw this thread! this is awsome! a speed animating!!
well im a little late on this one, but count me in for the next monday challenge!
ill still keep an eye on this one

nice charater anima, you know what would be funny... using your cientist to create some kind of weird swing. i would love to see that character on a animation

cheers

Freespace-3DT · 14-07-2005, 04:00 PM

anima3d: Allrighty anima. Thanks, that song's funny so I thought I'd mix it with my speed animation for this week. Seems it worked out fine.

Henry_B: Well get ready for next week then, cause it's gonna be something out of this world.

13-07-2005, 04:33 AM	#46
Pikmin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 240 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If I could decide, we couldnt use any dynamics. No eyes candy dynamics that could make us look those animation instead of the hand-animate character. Just pure animation! __________________ Animator Ubisoft Montreal

13-07-2005, 02:31 PM	#47
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi guys...thats looking better shiroii, better camera angle. Im with Pikmin on the dynamics i think. The trouble with dynamics is they adhere to the laws of physics (not sure about maya but 3ds max has the havok engine built in) so you can set things up in exactly the same way 10 times, but when you run the simulation you will get 10 different results. Its unpredictable, and difficult to keyframe other elements to as you dont know where things are going to end up. With a rig like mine, im in complete control. About that rig....its nearly finished. Just adding a second controller in to make it twist a little to add a little more to the motion of the swing. Will post a clip later today. __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

13-07-2005, 04:39 PM	#48
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok....now were cooking. http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swing/WIP_SWING_RIG.mov __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

13-07-2005, 05:35 PM	#49
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	finished block animation okey dokey....finished my block anim. Not happy with the man falling over but theres still 2 days left to iron that out. take a look... http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swin...BLOCK_ANIM.mov __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

13-07-2005, 08:04 PM	#50
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yay!! Looking better now...still not quite there though. used ragdoll constraints on the biped so after frame 500 reactor kicks in and the "fall" is now physically correct. http://www.maxforever.co.uk/3dt/swing/WIP_RAGDOLL.wmv __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

13-07-2005, 08:43 PM	#51
anima3d teh nabcake Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 701 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	Heres my hero : Primitive Robo Hope its ok for this challenge.. __________________ ...

13-07-2005, 09:25 PM	#52
shiroii the soup guy Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks like fun anima3d! Looking forward to it LostBear, I think you should speed up the animation. But uhm, what's with the ragdoll? That isn't animation, right? It would be muuuuch better if you just hand animated the fall instead of using a ragdoll, because dynamics isn't animation O_o

13-07-2005, 10:01 PM	#53
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ermmm yeah. your kinda right.shiroii....but with no definate rule on the use of dynamics i used em. And anyway, if your saw the hand animated fall i did in the block anim movie above, who can blame me!!. it sucked!!. Yeah it is a little slow, ill fix that. __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

13-07-2005, 10:38 PM	#54
Blusoul Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Howdy guys, iv just caught this kinda half way. Im a just observe this time round but will b ready for Monday. I agree wiv Pikmin that animations that dont entail dynamics and all that technical stuff just keep it key framed Character animation based and im a join y'all. Last edited by Blusoul; 13-07-2005 at 10:41 PM..

13-07-2005, 11:37 PM	#55
shiroii the soup guy Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Blusoul, welcome Looking forward to your entry next week Ok, I agree with pikmin, Beginning next monday: no more dynamics, every movement = hand made, anything else is disqualified.

14-07-2005, 12:10 AM	#56
LostBear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thats fair enough. No more dynamics after this week. __________________ Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go. --Oscar Wilde

14-07-2005, 03:16 AM	#57
Freespace-3DT Commando Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Romania, Cluj Posts: 7,988 Thanks: 39 Thanked 185 Times in 158 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10	Aawww... Dang. I love dynamics... Oh well. Nice character, Anima. Did you make it? Welcome Blusoul. You can still do something, you know. You've got a day and a half to go. It is SPEED animation for a reason. __________________ Cinematics: StarCraft: Final Metamorphosis (Final 7.5 Minute CG Animation) Speed Factor 2 (23-NOV-2010) Demo Reel 2010 (1-OCT-2010) StarCraft: First Contact (08-JUL-2009) MY CG&VFX WEBSITE

14-07-2005, 05:28 AM	#58
anima3d teh nabcake Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 701 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	thank u freespace. I make this guy yesterday & as u can see the model its very simple (just primitives).. Im on the way for the 'short' now.. btw ur animation was amazing!!! i love that song very funny. Heres another one pose of my character.. im trying to learn him Karate __________________ ...

14-07-2005, 06:04 AM	#59
Henry_B Professional Noob Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Queretaro, Mexico Posts: 1,010 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	man!! havent saw this thread! this is awsome! a speed animating!! well im a little late on this one, but count me in for the next monday challenge! ill still keep an eye on this one nice charater anima, you know what would be funny... using your cientist to create some kind of weird swing. i would love to see that character on a animation cheers __________________ Viva Mexico!

14-07-2005, 04:00 PM	#60
Freespace-3DT Commando Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Romania, Cluj Posts: 7,988 Thanks: 39 Thanked 185 Times in 158 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 10	anima3d: Allrighty anima. Thanks, that song's funny so I thought I'd mix it with my speed animation for this week. Seems it worked out fine. Henry_B: Well get ready for next week then, cause it's gonna be something out of this world. __________________ Cinematics: StarCraft: Final Metamorphosis (Final 7.5 Minute CG Animation) Speed Factor 2 (23-NOV-2010) Demo Reel 2010 (1-OCT-2010) StarCraft: First Contact (08-JUL-2009) MY CG&VFX WEBSITE

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