a HEAD! wich needs C&C

Bardur · 12-08-2005, 11:13 PM

Here is a link to a CGtalk thread that i started please take a look (i don´t want to post all the same here as i have on CGtalk but if you want me to, i´ll do it.)
Please tell me what you think about it and how and what i need to do to IMPROVE it.
Click here!

ill post the next update here also.

thanks in advance.

Regards
Bardur

Avatar-3DT · 13-08-2005, 01:53 AM

It would be good if you just post the picture here. The last picture looked pretty good. A lot like a childish, pranckish superhero. No crits for now. Updates?

Two Left Hands · 13-08-2005, 03:38 AM

I kinda don't appreciate you link threading like that... Threedy is a website of it's own... Call me bias... So, no comment.

Ilkejav mk5 · 13-08-2005, 04:02 AM

I agree with Two-Left-Hands. it's like buying something from a store and going to his competitior showing him what you bought... not that the forums are competing or anything, it's just that you could just have bothered to copy the thread post here...

Bardur · 13-08-2005, 04:12 AM

OK as you order!

heres an update.. and please can someone Crit (C&C) this.
I have now modeled the ears and fixed the Topology/Edgeflow around his mouth & nose. i also made the mouth longer.

Quote:

i think the reason that he looks a bit like a child with this sulking expression is mainly based on the eye brows.....
the "stupid" expression, like the expression of a prehistoric man or a monkey ^^, which
you can see in the Reference, is missing in your model.
The ears are not very detailed, but for a comic style they 're perfect

can someone tell me there opinion/thought to make him look a "little" bit more normal?

I´m going for both real and cartoon, mixed together. (Heres the reference!)
i´ll have some hair updates tomorrow.

Regards
Bardur

Avatar-3DT · 13-08-2005, 06:33 AM

To be honest I don't think you should change anything. It has personality and you get pretty close to the characters in "The Incredibles" as style. You do have some tris in the mesh you should get rid of. I know they they aren't such important zones for animation, but you never know. And besides that, getting used with the polyflow its a good thing for future projects.
This model has potential. You just need to work on it.

MrArmless · 13-08-2005, 08:33 AM

Ok, these are tentative cuts I made on your mesh. I warn you though, I'm not an expert (yet) and if other threedy people say I'm wrong with these cuts you might wanna listen to them

as it stands I'm not sure that would be the best way because it kills the flow a bit, but it does make quads out of the tris. I'm hoping people reading this will crit my cuts if they are wrong

Bardur · 13-08-2005, 04:39 PM

its Damn nice to get so supportive replys
i´ll fix those poly cuts and play a bit with the hair.

Regards
Bardur

13-08-2005, 04:45 PM

it`s good so far,I would make his brow a little heavier.
You will see in the refference that he is scowling,like heavy brow area.
A lot of expression can come from the eye area.

Bardur · 13-08-2005, 04:59 PM

Hi again
I now have a update to feed you with. hehe
Here i have changed the edgeflow wich MrArmless pointed out.
and i have also added HAIR (hurray) and i also changed the brow/eye area a bit.
Looking forward to hearing NEW crits.

Regards
Bardur

Bardur · 13-08-2005, 11:16 PM

heres a front view with EYES. hehe
C&C away.

Regards

inveni0 · 14-08-2005, 02:27 AM

Under the nose from the front view looks too "ridged". Try smoothing that line out.

Track_Maniac · 14-08-2005, 02:51 AM

Looking good, but one crit I have is the nostrils... they look too far apart, and the "skin" that makes them up seems too thin. I know this is supposed to be cartoony, but it just doesn't look quite right to me. Other than that, excellent model. Can't wait to see it textured.

Bardur · 14-08-2005, 02:53 AM

thanks for your support i´ll try to play around with the things you all have pointed out.
Expect updates tomorrow.

Regards
Bardur

Bardur · 14-08-2005, 03:35 AM

Heres an update...

here i have changed the nostrill a bit and the eyebrows (made him more angry) i also changed the upper lip/under nose a little now its not so bulky/fat..

and could someone give me tips,opinions and thoughts about the hair and how to improve it or make it different.

Regards

Bardur

12-08-2005, 11:13 PM	#1
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	a HEAD! wich needs C&C Here is a link to a CGtalk thread that i started please take a look (i don´t want to post all the same here as i have on CGtalk but if you want me to, i´ll do it.) Please tell me what you think about it and how and what i need to do to IMPROVE it. Click here! ill post the next update here also. thanks in advance. Regards Bardur

13-08-2005, 01:53 AM	#2
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	It would be good if you just post the picture here. The last picture looked pretty good. A lot like a childish, pranckish superhero. No crits for now. Updates? __________________ "There will be a time when heroes will be diminished and the great glory of Man shall be just a dim star reflected in fading waters of time, when no life nor sacrifice shall be required for the honor of such title, but just the empty banner of a victory." Locarn D'Arcy, Master Paladin, last Avatar "Of Heroes and their passing" www.avatarart.com http://www.avatarart.com/shards/

13-08-2005, 03:38 AM	#3
Two Left Hands Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: California, US Posts: 159 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I kinda don't appreciate you link threading like that... Threedy is a website of it's own... Call me bias... So, no comment. __________________ °O°

13-08-2005, 06:33 AM	#6
Avatar-3DT Paper scratcher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Romania - Ramnicu Sarat Posts: 5,608 Thanks: 4 Thanked 101 Times in 95 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 4	To be honest I don't think you should change anything. It has personality and you get pretty close to the characters in "The Incredibles" as style. You do have some tris in the mesh you should get rid of. I know they they aren't such important zones for animation, but you never know. And besides that, getting used with the polyflow its a good thing for future projects. This model has potential. You just need to work on it. __________________ "There will be a time when heroes will be diminished and the great glory of Man shall be just a dim star reflected in fading waters of time, when no life nor sacrifice shall be required for the honor of such title, but just the empty banner of a victory." Locarn D'Arcy, Master Paladin, last Avatar "Of Heroes and their passing" www.avatarart.com http://www.avatarart.com/shards/

13-08-2005, 08:33 AM	#7
MrArmless Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 462 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Cuts and such! Ok, these are tentative cuts I made on your mesh. I warn you though, I'm not an expert (yet) and if other threedy people say I'm wrong with these cuts you might wanna listen to them as it stands I'm not sure that would be the best way because it kills the flow a bit, but it does make quads out of the tris. I'm hoping people reading this will crit my cuts if they are wrong __________________ My WIP thread (my small office room): http://forums.3dtotal.com/showthread.php?t=56250 Last edited by MrArmless; 13-08-2005 at 08:38 AM..

13-08-2005, 04:02 AM	#4
Ilkejav mk5 Marquis of Montréal. Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montréal baby! best gaming city in the 'verse. Posts: 1,867 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree with Two-Left-Hands. it's like buying something from a store and going to his competitior showing him what you bought... not that the forums are competing or anything, it's just that you could just have bothered to copy the thread post here...

13-08-2005, 04:39 PM	#8
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	its Damn nice to get so supportive replys i´ll fix those poly cuts and play a bit with the hair. Regards Bardur

13-08-2005, 04:45 PM	#9
Brent Guest Posts: n/a	it`s good so far,I would make his brow a little heavier. You will see in the refference that he is scowling,like heavy brow area. A lot of expression can come from the eye area.

13-08-2005, 04:59 PM	#10
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Updates! Hi again I now have a update to feed you with. hehe Here i have changed the edgeflow wich MrArmless pointed out. and i have also added HAIR (hurray) and i also changed the brow/eye area a bit. Looking forward to hearing NEW crits. Regards Bardur

13-08-2005, 11:16 PM	#11
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	heres a front view with EYES. hehe C&C away. Regards

14-08-2005, 02:27 AM	#12
inveni0 Man of the Hour Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Why right here, of course... Posts: 6,803 Thanks: 40 Thanked 35 Times in 31 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	Under the nose from the front view looks too "ridged". Try smoothing that line out. __________________ The Easter Bunny is a MONSTER! - It's Out!

14-08-2005, 02:51 AM	#13
Track_Maniac Amateur Extraordinaire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looking good, but one crit I have is the nostrils... they look too far apart, and the "skin" that makes them up seems too thin. I know this is supposed to be cartoony, but it just doesn't look quite right to me. Other than that, excellent model. Can't wait to see it textured. __________________ Sketchbook Ongoing 3D Portfolio Work Ongoing 3D Johnny 5 Version 2.0 Complete 2D Troll Complete 3D Military Jeep Complete 2D Cryptik Vision Logos Complete 3D Starship Complete

14-08-2005, 02:53 AM	#14
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for your support i´ll try to play around with the things you all have pointed out. Expect updates tomorrow. Regards Bardur

14-08-2005, 03:35 AM	#15
Bardur Just a young lad Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Faroe islands - klaksvik Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heres an update... here i have changed the nostrill a bit and the eyebrows (made him more angry) i also changed the upper lip/under nose a little now its not so bulky/fat.. and could someone give me tips,opinions and thoughts about the hair and how to improve it or make it different. Regards Bardur

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