Video Margraf

Dionisio · 15-09-2006, 02:11 PM

Hi everybody!

Today we finished the Margraf video production.

We used a 10 PCs renderfarm (2GB ram every machine), 3ds Max 8 for modelling and animation and finalRender Stage-1 for the rendering process. The animation is entirely calculated with GI (included moving objects).

Rendertime per frame: 6 minutes (average included GI solution)

Have a nice vision!

Link:
VIDEO MARGRAF

Dionisio -

Rico · 15-09-2006, 04:23 PM

very cool renderings. nice textures and the cloth simulation was good as well.

but finally all i see is a simple motionride (with sometimes ugly cameramoves and shakes) through some boxes.

Dionisio · 15-09-2006, 04:49 PM

>>>but finally all i see is a simple motionride (with sometimes ugly cameramoves and shakes) through some boxes.

I am so sorry you see those great cameras movements "ugly, shaked as simple motionride"!!!

It's a personal matter of what everybody thinks about a film, art, etc....

Thanks for your comments!

Dionisio -

USED · 16-09-2006, 02:45 AM

Dionisio.. I think this is great, models look good, render, textures and lighting are excellent! However the camera shakes are killing it for me... I do like them, they help hide the CG fluid feel, but in this case they are over done, and when your flying around the city the camera should not be shaking like this... I think they work well when at eye level, they give a feel that the camera is being hand held, that is real..
3 ***'s

because of those shakes... I think this could be front page worty, if some of these things were addressed

inveni0 · 16-09-2006, 06:06 AM

The whole things feels very 'small'. I didn't notice camera shakes. I didn't watch the whole thing cause I got bored. The buildings have no feeling of life. The textures are bland (except for a few that were paid attention to).

Try again!

ItsaMystery · 16-09-2006, 11:19 AM

I found it to be quite a cool demonstration of your lighting/rendering/cloth simulation/architecture skills

I did find the camera shakes to be a bit over done, but of course it's your preference in terms of trying to achieve a specific style.

Good work overall!

Dionisio · 16-09-2006, 03:17 PM

Well, I am so sorry all you guys found the camera shakes not a good effect. We like it here, ours client and many other users too...

We can't satisfied everybody!!! It's not a Holywwood production and the budget was limited. So it's already a miracle we produced such a video.

We know also that the city is not extrememly detail but the target was different than produce Spiderman's remake...

Thanks again,

Dionisio -

inveni0 · 16-09-2006, 04:00 PM

Just out of curiosity, for what did the client need a 3 minute fly-through of a cloth in a city?

s0nkitE · 16-09-2006, 04:52 PM

it was cool but i didnt like the music
maybe its the worst music track i have heared in years
maybe with a bteer music it will be better to see

GecT · 21-09-2006, 11:53 PM

I thought it looked pretty good and I don't mind the fact that city is way too clean, also there was nothing wrong with the audio in my humble opinion. Only problem I had was that the opening credits and some other shots dragged on too long and so I did become a little bored, other than that it was good.

Bubbaloo · 28-09-2006, 05:54 AM

I thought it was excellent! Architectural themes don't tend to rank highly here, but it was better than 80% of the work I see here. You guys should be proud. Also, I'd like to be able to download it. It was choppy on my computer.

morpheusgtv · 29-09-2006, 12:10 AM

file mou itan poly kali douleia kai symfono gia ayto pou les gia ta camera shakes. an to thelei o pelatis tote skase kai kolympa! alla tha mporousame na to krinoume kalytera (ego toulahiston) an kserame poios o logos gia to videaki giati me mperdepse ligo.

RickStefani · 29-09-2006, 03:10 AM

I think this is very well done. I do usually like camera shake. It will add a bit of realism but the problem for me on this one is the amount and the lack of reason. What I mean by that is if you are panning a camera across an object it might overshoot the object by a small bit and then come back on track. The shake should be subtle unless there is a large event like an explosion or a fast moving object in front of the camera. Also if the camera shakes, there will be a bit of camera blur.

15-09-2006, 02:11 PM	#1
Dionisio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Video Margraf Hi everybody! Today we finished the Margraf video production. We used a 10 PCs renderfarm (2GB ram every machine), 3ds Max 8 for modelling and animation and finalRender Stage-1 for the rendering process. The animation is entirely calculated with GI (included moving objects). Rendertime per frame: 6 minutes (average included GI solution) Have a nice vision! Link: VIDEO MARGRAF Dionisio - __________________ Dionissios Tsangaropoulos Graphic Designer \| Director Autodesk Authorized Consultant (EMEA AAC) ------------------------------- Delta Tracing www.deltatracing.com Last edited by Dionisio; 15-09-2006 at 02:14 PM..

15-09-2006, 04:23 PM	#2
Rico Gaucho perdido Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Munich, GER Posts: 117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	very cool renderings. nice textures and the cloth simulation was good as well. but finally all i see is a simple motionride (with sometimes ugly cameramoves and shakes) through some boxes. __________________ "The Sense of Nonsene" Short WIP ------------------------------------------------------ Speed Painting Challenges: #44 Dragons(2nd) #47 Ninja(3rd) "Considering animals, every man becomes a Nazi - For animals, each day is like Treblinka" - Isaac Bashevis Singer

15-09-2006, 04:49 PM	#3
Dionisio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	>>>but finally all i see is a simple motionride (with sometimes ugly cameramoves and shakes) through some boxes. I am so sorry you see those great cameras movements "ugly, shaked as simple motionride"!!! It's a personal matter of what everybody thinks about a film, art, etc.... Thanks for your comments! Dionisio - __________________ Dionissios Tsangaropoulos Graphic Designer \| Director Autodesk Authorized Consultant (EMEA AAC) ------------------------------- Delta Tracing www.deltatracing.com

16-09-2006, 02:45 AM	#4
USED Administrator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Seattle, WA. Posts: 1,511 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Dionisio.. I think this is great, models look good, render, textures and lighting are excellent! However the camera shakes are killing it for me... I do like them, they help hide the CG fluid feel, but in this case they are over done, and when your flying around the city the camera should not be shaking like this... I think they work well when at eye level, they give a feel that the camera is being hand held, that is real.. 3 ***'s because of those shakes... I think this could be front page worty, if some of these things were addressed __________________ Jeremy Mastroianni www.facebook.com/used3dt Long ago I was a Forum Administrator www.3dtotal.com / www.threedy.com Tetra Tech. email: jeremy.mastroianni at tetratech.com web www.tetratech.com

16-09-2006, 06:06 AM	#5
inveni0 Man of the Hour Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Why right here, of course... Posts: 6,809 Thanks: 40 Thanked 35 Times in 31 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	The whole things feels very 'small'. I didn't notice camera shakes. I didn't watch the whole thing cause I got bored. The buildings have no feeling of life. The textures are bland (except for a few that were paid attention to). Try again! __________________ The Easter Bunny is a MONSTER! - It's Out!

16-09-2006, 11:19 AM	#6
ItsaMystery >>[ n1nj4 ]<< Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: n1nj4-ville, USA Posts: 280 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I found it to be quite a cool demonstration of your lighting/rendering/cloth simulation/architecture skills I did find the camera shakes to be a bit over done, but of course it's your preference in terms of trying to achieve a specific style. Good work overall! __________________ :n1nj4:

16-09-2006, 03:17 PM	#7
Dionisio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, I am so sorry all you guys found the camera shakes not a good effect. We like it here, ours client and many other users too... We can't satisfied everybody!!! It's not a Holywwood production and the budget was limited. So it's already a miracle we produced such a video. We know also that the city is not extrememly detail but the target was different than produce Spiderman's remake... Thanks again, Dionisio - __________________ Dionissios Tsangaropoulos Graphic Designer \| Director Autodesk Authorized Consultant (EMEA AAC) ------------------------------- Delta Tracing www.deltatracing.com

16-09-2006, 04:00 PM	#8
inveni0 Man of the Hour Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Why right here, of course... Posts: 6,809 Thanks: 40 Thanked 35 Times in 31 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	Just out of curiosity, for what did the client need a 3 minute fly-through of a cloth in a city? __________________ The Easter Bunny is a MONSTER! - It's Out!

16-09-2006, 04:52 PM	#9
s0nkitE Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Losted in space,Athens-Greece Posts: 380 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	it was cool but i didnt like the music maybe its the worst music track i have heared in years maybe with a bteer music it will be better to see

21-09-2006, 11:53 PM	#10
GecT Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought it looked pretty good and I don't mind the fact that city is way too clean, also there was nothing wrong with the audio in my humble opinion. Only problem I had was that the opening credits and some other shots dragged on too long and so I did become a little bored, other than that it was good.

28-09-2006, 05:54 AM	#11
Bubbaloo I be learnin me some 3d. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma U.S.A. Posts: 1,938 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	I thought it was excellent! Architectural themes don't tend to rank highly here, but it was better than 80% of the work I see here. You guys should be proud. Also, I'd like to be able to download it. It was choppy on my computer.

29-09-2006, 12:10 AM	#12
morpheusgtv Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	file mou itan poly kali douleia kai symfono gia ayto pou les gia ta camera shakes. an to thelei o pelatis tote skase kai kolympa! alla tha mporousame na to krinoume kalytera (ego toulahiston) an kserame poios o logos gia to videaki giati me mperdepse ligo.

29-09-2006, 03:10 AM	#13
RickStefani delinquent account Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,326 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think this is very well done. I do usually like camera shake. It will add a bit of realism but the problem for me on this one is the amount and the lack of reason. What I mean by that is if you are panning a camera across an object it might overshoot the object by a small bit and then come back on track. The shake should be subtle unless there is a large event like an explosion or a fast moving object in front of the camera. Also if the camera shakes, there will be a bit of camera blur. __________________ Fatal what??? F***, forgot to save.

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