Cleaning Meshmodels

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 09:31 AM

i'm still working on my tug boat, but there still seems to be a problem concerning the smoothness of the mesh. somehow i can't get it done to convert a splined model to a good, clean, smooth mesh. my model keeps having all these odd-toeded parts and my question is: how do i get rid of those?! i allready tried to add a smooth to it, but it's no good. help!

fabrizzzio · 14-03-2003, 10:03 AM

Hey Ngine!

Maybe your structure need more subdivisions. Can you put a image of the spline cage?

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 10:18 AM

ok, here are all the perspectives of the wired model (after putting a surface modifier on it):

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 10:21 AM

and the model without the surface modifier:

fabrizzzio · 14-03-2003, 10:39 AM

It's good, but i think that you are using too much asimetric bezier points. That kind'a points generates irregularity because it's difficult manipulate the tangent handlers. You could try using bezier (only; it means simetric bezier) or smooth. Try with this and maybe you could get what you want.

Keep us updated!!!!

jbw · 14-03-2003, 10:41 AM

Het NgInE,
Glad to see you're still at it!!! Right, are the normals facing the right way? Try flipping them and then converting it to a poly. I'd suggest cloning your splines first so you've got a backup which you can hide. Also I've attached a pic showing where you could add another couple of vertexs to clean up the mesh, alternatively you might get an even nicer mesh by not joining those two horizontal lines to one point at the end of the boat.

ta,
jbw

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 12:29 PM

well, i puted a smooth on the vertexes, and after that i converted them to corners and this is the result, no more odd parts. you can still see those straight lines though. so now i only have to bezier the model to make it rounder....i hope.

kuman · 14-03-2003, 01:33 PM

i think what you're encountering here is one of the drawbacks of surface/spline modeling. it tends to create meshes that are uneven and difficult to modify after they've been generated. something that i would consider doing is to drop your spline resolutions down and then after the surface has been created to convert it to mesh or poly and then rely on smoothing to get your final forms. that might provide you with an easier mesh to work with.

-k

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 02:54 PM

yeah, you are right. after deleting 2 spline surfaces, i got a better result. no perfect yet, but alot smoother.

NgInE · 14-03-2003, 02:55 PM

as long as there is glossiness on the surface, it looks pretty good

Net Admiral · 14-03-2003, 05:00 PM

Excuse me, but why r u bothering yourself using splines ??! I think lofting a custom shape could give the needed results easily!!

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NgInE · 17-03-2003, 02:14 PM

because i know how to spline model and i don't know how to loft properly

NgInE · 20-03-2003, 03:20 PM

well, i promised to keep you updated, so here it is, tell me what you think (it's lowpoly btw):

mac5er · 21-03-2003, 08:33 AM

Hey arshol

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14-03-2003, 09:31 AM	#1
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Cleaning Meshmodels i'm still working on my tug boat, but there still seems to be a problem concerning the smoothness of the mesh. somehow i can't get it done to convert a splined model to a good, clean, smooth mesh. my model keeps having all these odd-toeded parts and my question is: how do i get rid of those?! i allready tried to add a smooth to it, but it's no good. help! Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 10:03 AM	#2
fabrizzzio The Dr. Gonzo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Misiones, Argentina Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	Hey Ngine! Maybe your structure need more subdivisions. Can you put a image of the spline cage? __________________ ----------------------------------------- "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new. (Albert Einstein)" ...Croma Studio

14-03-2003, 10:18 AM	#3
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok, here are all the perspectives of the wired model (after putting a surface modifier on it): Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 10:21 AM	#4
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and the model without the surface modifier: Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 10:39 AM	#5
fabrizzzio The Dr. Gonzo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Misiones, Argentina Posts: 182 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	It's good, but i think that you are using too much asimetric bezier points. That kind'a points generates irregularity because it's difficult manipulate the tangent handlers. You could try using bezier (only; it means simetric bezier) or smooth. Try with this and maybe you could get what you want. Keep us updated!!!! __________________ ----------------------------------------- "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new. (Albert Einstein)" ...Croma Studio

14-03-2003, 10:41 AM	#6
jbw Fozzy Bear is your friend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Het NgInE, Glad to see you're still at it!!! Right, are the normals facing the right way? Try flipping them and then converting it to a poly. I'd suggest cloning your splines first so you've got a backup which you can hide. Also I've attached a pic showing where you could add another couple of vertexs to clean up the mesh, alternatively you might get an even nicer mesh by not joining those two horizontal lines to one point at the end of the boat. ta, jbw Attached Images

14-03-2003, 12:29 PM	#7
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well, i puted a smooth on the vertexes, and after that i converted them to corners and this is the result, no more odd parts. you can still see those straight lines though. so now i only have to bezier the model to make it rounder....i hope. Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 01:33 PM	#8
kuman Fishscale Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Venice Beach Posts: 831 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i think what you're encountering here is one of the drawbacks of surface/spline modeling. it tends to create meshes that are uneven and difficult to modify after they've been generated. something that i would consider doing is to drop your spline resolutions down and then after the surface has been created to convert it to mesh or poly and then rely on smoothing to get your final forms. that might provide you with an easier mesh to work with. -k

14-03-2003, 02:54 PM	#9
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah, you are right. after deleting 2 spline surfaces, i got a better result. no perfect yet, but alot smoother. Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 02:55 PM	#10
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	as long as there is glossiness on the surface, it looks pretty good Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

14-03-2003, 05:00 PM	#11
Net Admiral Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 180 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Excuse me, but why r u bothering yourself using splines ??! I think lofting a custom shape could give the needed results easily!! ________ Expert insurance Last edited by Net Admiral; 19-04-2011 at 08:38 PM..

17-03-2003, 02:14 PM	#12
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	because i know how to spline model and i don't know how to loft properly __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

20-03-2003, 03:20 PM	#13
NgInE Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	well, i promised to keep you updated, so here it is, tell me what you think (it's lowpoly btw): Attached Images __________________ "Archaeological Dig Uncovers Ancient Race Of Skeleton People"

21-03-2003, 08:33 AM	#14
mac5er Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 190 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Eikel Hey arshol Leuke aardappel __________________ www.mac5er.tk Last edited by mac5er; 27-03-2003 at 01:24 PM..

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