Suri (need crits and comments)

PONRHartman · 11-01-2010, 07:21 PM

hey all, im attempting to make a proper next gen character,
im starting in max then going on to sculpt the high poly in zbrush, then retopo in max, so on and so forth,
well i finished the head for now and decided to make the hair next,
i've made hair several times already, but the whole point of this model is to get everything right to where it looks like it could actually be in a game,
any way here is what i have so far and the concept, i was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction of how to make the hair look, well good,
also if anybody has any crits about the topology or anything im open to those to. thanks a bunch!!!

-latest-

Tank[NL] · 11-01-2010, 07:50 PM

hey man, welcome to the forums. the mesh is looking good. not much to crit there. except for a funky thing at the nose.

looking at the ref, that guy is badass. the model looks pretty generic. you might want to pop his muscles a lot more and make his jaw stronger/sharper.

gl dude. looking forward to the sculpt

ooh, i made a wee lill' paint-over for ya. hope you dont mind.

PONRHartman · 11-01-2010, 09:05 PM

thanks for the crit, the sharp jaw looks much better, ill post an update when i get a little more done, but i guess for now ill just post the full concept. the first one is his regualr outfit and the second is his assassin/combat gear. ill be making both

Freeloader · 11-01-2010, 10:41 PM

I still think your head looks a little blocky. There are a lot of loops that could be put to better use to define a more curved shape (mainly at the forehead area). As for hair, you could go for the good ol' planes approach (see my attached image).
I'm having a hard time doing the ear for my model, and yours looks really great, so if you could point me to some resources or give some tips I would really appreciate it.
Cheers!

PONRHartman · 11-01-2010, 11:10 PM

honestly i dont really have a method, im a little suprised the ears came out as good as they did myslef

,
i guess what i did is just find a picture of a real ear look at the big forms and base your edge flow on that and just build it a piece at a time,
sorry if thats not terribly helpful theres a pretty good head modeling tutorial in the tutorials section tho, http://www.3dtotal.com/

PONRHartman · 12-01-2010, 06:35 AM

heres the solutions i came up with for the hair, i think it will work with textures, crits?

E4sY · 12-01-2010, 11:56 PM

The hair is coming out nice. however, i think u need more planes in the middle where the head connects to the pony tail. the face looks really true to the concept. keep it up

PONRHartman · 14-01-2010, 12:53 AM

very slow progress, worked on the hair some more tho

PONRHartman · 14-01-2010, 08:59 PM

got a little more time to work on this, i got the mid poly torso done, and part of the arms, im not sure if my topology is as good as it should be tho, crits?

D-Chap · 16-01-2010, 03:43 AM

I think its looking pretty good overall. With the hair I find it often hard to tell how well it will work out in the end- making hair is one of my weaknesses. I think the direction you're going with it looks good though.

Looking forward to seeing more

E4sY · 16-01-2010, 10:09 AM

The torso is looking good and shapely. However the topology is not flowing really well. here is a link for torso building w/ edge loops. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq86XWvJsiM

PONRHartman · 16-01-2010, 10:03 PM

hammered out the arms and hands, and worked on the torso a little more

D-Chap - thanks, and yeah the hair is one of my weaknesses too, im trying to get it right on this character tho

E4sY - i worked on the topology a little more near the bottom, the topology here is based off of some anatomy pics i have and little off of grassetti's male model, i think it will sculpt well this way, also most of these faces will be blasted away under the armor any way lol

E4sY · 17-01-2010, 12:48 AM

It was the lines around the stomach that was looking strange, but its lookin better now. keep it going, man. Looks good.

PONRHartman · 20-01-2010, 12:02 AM

i finished the basemesh, the model is almost ready to take into zbrush,
but can anybody tell me how to go about making the bandages on the left arm?

PONRHartman · 22-01-2010, 09:55 PM

finished with the sculpt i think, im not sure about the folds in the pants tho, thats one of my weaker areas so im open to suggestions on how to make it better, also still not really sure about how making the bandages on the arm, help? lol

i came up with a solution for the bandages

11-01-2010, 07:21 PM	#1
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Suri (need crits and comments) hey all, im attempting to make a proper next gen character, im starting in max then going on to sculpt the high poly in zbrush, then retopo in max, so on and so forth, well i finished the head for now and decided to make the hair next, i've made hair several times already, but the whole point of this model is to get everything right to where it looks like it could actually be in a game, any way here is what i have so far and the concept, i was hoping that someone could point me in the right direction of how to make the hair look, well good, also if anybody has any crits about the topology or anything im open to those to. thanks a bunch!!! -latest- Attached Images Last edited by PONRHartman; 11-02-2010 at 07:57 PM..

11-01-2010, 07:50 PM	#2
Tank[NL] New goal: Platinum spam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Your happyplace. I stole it... Posts: 3,423 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3	hey man, welcome to the forums. the mesh is looking good. not much to crit there. except for a funky thing at the nose. looking at the ref, that guy is badass. the model looks pretty generic. you might want to pop his muscles a lot more and make his jaw stronger/sharper. gl dude. looking forward to the sculpt ooh, i made a wee lill' paint-over for ya. hope you dont mind. Attached Images __________________ NEW SIGNATURE! aint it pretty?

11-01-2010, 10:41 PM	#4
Freeloader aka simplySH Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Coventry, UK Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I still think your head looks a little blocky. There are a lot of loops that could be put to better use to define a more curved shape (mainly at the forehead area). As for hair, you could go for the good ol' planes approach (see my attached image). I'm having a hard time doing the ear for my model, and yours looks really great, so if you could point me to some resources or give some tips I would really appreciate it. Cheers! Attached Images __________________ Personal Game Project First Character Ever

12-01-2010, 11:56 PM	#7
E4sY aka E4sY_506 (xbox live) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 394 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	The hair is coming out nice. however, i think u need more planes in the middle where the head connects to the pony tail. the face looks really true to the concept. keep it up __________________ 3D ArTisT - What I'm Working On - - DW 5 - - Fanatic Soldier -- Sci-fi Cop - -Army Of One- - Sci-fi Marine - - Conscript - - Thoughtful Alien - - Club Girl -

14-01-2010, 12:53 AM	#8
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	very slow progress, worked on the hair some more tho __________________ - what am i working on - Goku

11-01-2010, 09:05 PM	#3
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	thanks for the crit, the sharp jaw looks much better, ill post an update when i get a little more done, but i guess for now ill just post the full concept. the first one is his regualr outfit and the second is his assassin/combat gear. ill be making both

11-01-2010, 11:10 PM	#5
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	honestly i dont really have a method, im a little suprised the ears came out as good as they did myslef , i guess what i did is just find a picture of a real ear look at the big forms and base your edge flow on that and just build it a piece at a time, sorry if thats not terribly helpful theres a pretty good head modeling tutorial in the tutorials section tho, http://www.3dtotal.com/

12-01-2010, 06:35 AM	#6
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	heres the solutions i came up with for the hair, i think it will work with textures, crits?

14-01-2010, 08:59 PM	#9
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	got a little more time to work on this, i got the mid poly torso done, and part of the arms, im not sure if my topology is as good as it should be tho, crits? Attached Images __________________ - what am i working on - Goku

16-01-2010, 03:43 AM	#10
D-Chap Moon Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 106 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	I think its looking pretty good overall. With the hair I find it often hard to tell how well it will work out in the end- making hair is one of my weaknesses. I think the direction you're going with it looks good though. Looking forward to seeing more __________________ dchap.com - my 3D portfolio site, check it out!

16-01-2010, 10:09 AM	#11
E4sY aka E4sY_506 (xbox live) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 394 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	The torso is looking good and shapely. However the topology is not flowing really well. here is a link for torso building w/ edge loops. www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq86XWvJsiM __________________ 3D ArTisT - What I'm Working On - - DW 5 - - Fanatic Soldier -- Sci-fi Cop - -Army Of One- - Sci-fi Marine - - Conscript - - Thoughtful Alien - - Club Girl -

16-01-2010, 10:03 PM	#12
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	hammered out the arms and hands, and worked on the torso a little more D-Chap - thanks, and yeah the hair is one of my weaknesses too, im trying to get it right on this character tho E4sY - i worked on the topology a little more near the bottom, the topology here is based off of some anatomy pics i have and little off of grassetti's male model, i think it will sculpt well this way, also most of these faces will be blasted away under the armor any way lol Attached Images __________________ - what am i working on - Goku

17-01-2010, 12:48 AM	#13
E4sY aka E4sY_506 (xbox live) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 394 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	It was the lines around the stomach that was looking strange, but its lookin better now. keep it going, man. Looks good. __________________ 3D ArTisT - What I'm Working On - - DW 5 - - Fanatic Soldier -- Sci-fi Cop - -Army Of One- - Sci-fi Marine - - Conscript - - Thoughtful Alien - - Club Girl -

20-01-2010, 12:02 AM	#14
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	i finished the basemesh, the model is almost ready to take into zbrush, but can anybody tell me how to go about making the bandages on the left arm? Attached Images __________________ - what am i working on - Goku

22-01-2010, 09:55 PM	#15
PONRHartman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	finished with the sculpt i think, im not sure about the folds in the pants tho, thats one of my weaker areas so im open to suggestions on how to make it better, also still not really sure about how making the bandages on the arm, help? lol i came up with a solution for the bandages __________________ - what am i working on - Goku Last edited by PONRHartman; 23-01-2010 at 12:05 AM..

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