Weapons Of Dominance - Page 2

poopipe · 12-01-2011, 10:36 AM

The performance hit from a model comes from pixel shaders and texture usage - not polycount (within reason). modern GPUs are capable of pushing extremely large volumes of geometry around (tens or hundreds of millions of tris) very happily, the crunch comes when you start throwing high res normal/spec/etc maps and post effects into the mix (and that's largely unconnected to polycount)

I feel the polycounts in a lot of comps are set unrealistically low these days tbh. 10k on a character is hardly high end realtime specs (GOW had them at 20k plus and that happened years ago) and it seems to me we really ought to be pushing towards next generation specs (i'd guess we're looking at 50-100k on a major character)

The extra 2k will give space for curved surfaces and nice accessories like strap fixings, detailed ammo belts and so on.

Cordero · 12-01-2011, 10:46 AM

Okay, I think I'll shut up now

tsabszy · 12-01-2011, 11:32 AM

to say the truth i agree both of you.. but i still like the lower polycount coz that's more of a challange..
when you bake from a high poly model the lower the poly limit the more proffessional you must be abot low poly modeling and baking to create a nice silhoutte with a nice result

btw nowdays with consoles getting old and games on your phone the low poly modelling grows more important today..

Cordero · 12-01-2011, 12:14 PM

tsabszy: hehe, yeah there are tons of mobile games... thats good tho, coz I really like old fashioned lowpoly stuff

4k should be cool, I just need to figure something out... maybe an axe!

tsabszy · 12-01-2011, 12:27 PM

Cordero believe it or not the 3d profession today need to model cars consisting of less then 200 triangles

i bet you whouldn't believe coz you were born into a "next-gen" world

you know i'm just joking

terry1337 · 12-01-2011, 01:01 PM

i would say all out XD i lack lowpoly skillz XD

Fredddy · 12-01-2011, 05:41 PM

Mmmmm... I think 4000 tri's would be plenty to model my wife's lasagne.
Now that is a fearsome weapon.

Tank[NL] · 12-01-2011, 06:03 PM

oh man, i so wanna join.

question about the kind of weapon tho. does it have be portable or can we go apesh!t and make an spacestation?

Meauxable · 12-01-2011, 06:04 PM

the ultimate of ultimate weapons.

hulahuga · 12-01-2011, 07:09 PM

You guys are not even close...
This is the real deal

And look even NiN admits this as "the great destroyer"
Lookie here

BiG ToE-3DT · 12-01-2011, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tank[NL]

oh man, i so wanna join.

question about the kind of weapon tho. does it have be portable or can we go apesh!t and make an spacestation?

it's your weapon, do with it what you will.

Tank[NL] · 12-01-2011, 08:31 PM

*insert evil grin*

can do, boss

StefanC · 13-01-2011, 02:27 PM

mmh model a weapon, I think this is something I can pull off :P

Meauxable · 13-01-2011, 02:54 PM

deathstar? no we need something bigger!

divide by zero

hey, wait a minute.. it has to be an fps????
both no limit and limited polys?

xxxcubanxxx · 13-01-2011, 07:11 PM

I'm in....thinking of doing something with dirty diapers as ammo

12-01-2011, 10:36 AM	#16
poopipe conscientious objector Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: cambridge, uk Posts: 4,247 Thanks: 3 Thanked 126 Times in 120 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9	The performance hit from a model comes from pixel shaders and texture usage - not polycount (within reason). modern GPUs are capable of pushing extremely large volumes of geometry around (tens or hundreds of millions of tris) very happily, the crunch comes when you start throwing high res normal/spec/etc maps and post effects into the mix (and that's largely unconnected to polycount) I feel the polycounts in a lot of comps are set unrealistically low these days tbh. 10k on a character is hardly high end realtime specs (GOW had them at 20k plus and that happened years ago) and it seems to me we really ought to be pushing towards next generation specs (i'd guess we're looking at 50-100k on a major character) The extra 2k will give space for curved surfaces and nice accessories like strap fixings, detailed ammo belts and so on. __________________ work pigs!! http://johnsarthole.blogspot.com/

12-01-2011, 10:46 AM	#17
Cordero Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	Okay, I think I'll shut up now __________________ WEBSITE

12-01-2011, 12:14 PM	#19
Cordero Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,335 Thanks: 5 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 6	tsabszy: hehe, yeah there are tons of mobile games... thats good tho, coz I really like old fashioned lowpoly stuff 4k should be cool, I just need to figure something out... maybe an axe! __________________ WEBSITE

12-01-2011, 12:27 PM	#20
tsabszy Csaba Baity Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 577 Thanks: 69 Thanked 42 Times in 33 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Cordero believe it or not the 3d profession today need to model cars consisting of less then 200 triangles i bet you whouldn't believe coz you were born into a "next-gen" world you know i'm just joking Last edited by tsabszy; 12-01-2011 at 12:30 PM..

12-01-2011, 01:01 PM	#21
terry1337 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 191 Thanks: 14 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	awsome contest i would say all out XD i lack lowpoly skillz XD

12-01-2011, 11:32 AM	#18
tsabszy Csaba Baity Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 577 Thanks: 69 Thanked 42 Times in 33 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	to say the truth i agree both of you.. but i still like the lower polycount coz that's more of a challange.. when you bake from a high poly model the lower the poly limit the more proffessional you must be abot low poly modeling and baking to create a nice silhoutte with a nice result btw nowdays with consoles getting old and games on your phone the low poly modelling grows more important today..

12-01-2011, 05:41 PM	#22
Fredddy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 861 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2	Mmmmm... I think 4000 tri's would be plenty to model my wife's lasagne. Now that is a fearsome weapon.

12-01-2011, 06:03 PM	#23
Tank[NL] New goal: Platinum spam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Your happyplace. I stole it... Posts: 3,423 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3	oh man, i so wanna join. question about the kind of weapon tho. does it have be portable or can we go apesh!t and make an spacestation? __________________ NEW SIGNATURE! aint it pretty?

12-01-2011, 06:04 PM	#24
Meauxable Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Hague, Netherlands Posts: 41 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	the ultimate of ultimate weapons.

12-01-2011, 07:09 PM	#25
hulahuga Dr. Hula Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 4,647 Thanks: 140 Thanked 136 Times in 130 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5	You guys are not even close... This is the real deal And look even NiN admits this as "the great destroyer" Lookie here __________________ What does the doctor ordain today? - Hmm... What about a shot... full of ideas! Currently using: Maya - Mudbox - ZBrush - Photoshop WIP Hula's 2D Sketchbook http://forums.3dtotal.com/p=777808 Hula's 3D Sketchbox http://forums.3dtotal.com/p=76693 Hula and Waska's Joint Project Thread http://forums.3dtotal.com/p=792813

12-01-2011, 08:31 PM	#27
Tank[NL] New goal: Platinum spam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Your happyplace. I stole it... Posts: 3,423 Thanks: 3 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3	insert evil grin can do, boss __________________ NEW SIGNATURE! aint it pretty?

13-01-2011, 02:27 PM	#28
StefanC the human centipede Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 161 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1	mmh model a weapon, I think this is something I can pull off :P __________________ "I found a solution that I honestly think will work out best for one of both of us"

13-01-2011, 02:54 PM	#29
Meauxable Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Hague, Netherlands Posts: 41 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	deathstar? no we need something bigger! divide by zero hey, wait a minute.. it has to be an fps???? both no limit and limited polys? Last edited by Meauxable; 13-01-2011 at 03:38 PM..

13-01-2011, 07:11 PM	#30
xxxcubanxxx Your Cuban Daddy Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,224 Thanks: 162 Thanked 162 Times in 154 Posts Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7	I'm in....thinking of doing something with dirty diapers as ammo __________________ SKETCHES & WIPs PORTFOLIO

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode